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00:01:46,160 you are listening on Saturday and night 30 00:01:51,699 --> 00:01:48,500 this is a new episode we're just not 31 00:01:54,249 --> 00:01:51,709 live and so although we are a broadcast 32 00:01:57,130 --> 00:01:54,259 and we're regularly programmed that is 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:01:57,140 regularly programmed you know please 34 00:02:02,859 --> 00:02:00,770 feel free to email us send us messages 35 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:02,869 through social media and keep us posted 36 00:02:07,270 --> 00:02:04,550 on what you're interested in and any 37 00:02:10,020 --> 00:02:07,280 feedback you have from the show and I 38 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:10,030 will respond to you as quickly as I can 39 00:02:15,850 --> 00:02:13,760 tonight my guest is talking about a 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:15,860 classic topic within the realm of 41 00:02:22,030 --> 00:02:19,010 paranormal radio particularly within the 42 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:22,040 realm of extraterrestrials and ufology 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:24,080 although I'd say a lot of ufologist 44 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:26,410 don't exactly dig on this theory 45 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:29,840 particularly if you believe that aliens 46 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:31,760 are a new phenomenon but our guest 47 00:02:39,130 --> 00:02:34,489 tonight authors avian Hays believes that 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:39,140 ancient aliens are real and he wrote the 49 00:02:45,729 --> 00:02:43,250 book ancient aliens in the Bible and he 50 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:45,739 is also author of the suppressed history 51 00:02:50,050 --> 00:02:47,719 of America the suppressed history of 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:50,060 American banking ancient Giants of the 53 00:02:54,270 --> 00:02:52,690 Americas aliens in ancient Egypt 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:54,280 and a lot of these have subtitles which 55 00:02:59,850 --> 00:02:56,530 I'm not going to read all of them Elvis 56 00:03:01,650 --> 00:02:59,860 is alive and and many more 57 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:01,660 so Xavier I'm gonna give you a chance to 58 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:03,160 explain a little bit more about yourself 59 00:03:07,710 --> 00:03:04,180 to the audience and welcome to 60 00:03:08,090 --> 00:03:07,720 paranormal now I thank you for having me 61 00:03:12,090 --> 00:03:08,100 on 62 00:03:14,940 --> 00:03:12,100 absolutely yeah well I'm just a writer 63 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:14,950 basically and interested in these sort 64 00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:17,890 of spirit sea topics mm-hmm and I've 65 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:19,630 been writing about these for a long time 66 00:03:26,370 --> 00:03:23,080 and researching I mean I probably since 67 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:26,380 I was about 12 I think I saw in search 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:30,660 of and it was the Coral Castle episode 69 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:33,210 are you familiar with Coral Castle 70 00:03:38,970 --> 00:03:36,970 absolutely familiar with Castle yep so 71 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:38,980 I've been there a few times I think last 72 00:03:44,250 --> 00:03:41,860 time was about a year ago and I was I 73 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:44,260 was happy to see that they updated their 74 00:03:48,780 --> 00:03:46,690 little visitor center and the whole you 75 00:03:52,290 --> 00:03:48,790 know they got the whole tourist thing 76 00:03:53,970 --> 00:03:52,300 going on so it's an important site it's 77 00:03:55,410 --> 00:03:53,980 better than it was before because I had 78 00:03:58,980 --> 00:03:55,420 not been there before so I don't know 79 00:04:11,670 --> 00:03:58,990 what to compare it to it's 15 bucks more 80 00:04:15,260 --> 00:04:11,680 so that kind of alright so I mean so 81 00:04:17,610 --> 00:04:15,270 it's a tourist attraction it's worth it 82 00:04:19,229 --> 00:04:17,620 if you're in Miami it's definitely worth 83 00:04:19,650 --> 00:04:19,239 the drive out to homestead to check it 84 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:19,660 out 85 00:04:24,210 --> 00:04:21,760 it's incredible I mean how this guy did 86 00:04:28,110 --> 00:04:24,220 it you know still one of the unsolved 87 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:28,120 mysteries that fascinating well it's 88 00:04:31,710 --> 00:04:29,650 interesting because it's an unsolved 89 00:04:34,850 --> 00:04:31,720 mystery of modern times it's not some 90 00:04:37,530 --> 00:04:34,860 ancient industry of yeah 91 00:04:39,630 --> 00:04:37,540 so why do you think that is why do you 92 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:39,640 think he didn't um yeah I'm sorry why 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:41,580 did he why do you think he did not 94 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:45,130 reveal his secret or technique or 95 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:47,740 whatever 96 00:04:56,020 --> 00:04:50,090 well they tried to know he's gonna die 97 00:04:57,820 --> 00:04:56,030 then everything would be stolen right he 98 00:04:59,260 --> 00:04:57,830 kind of he kind of did reveal he you 99 00:05:01,390 --> 00:04:59,270 know he mentioned that he knew the how 100 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:01,400 the pyramids were built and he kind of 101 00:05:06,129 --> 00:05:04,970 left little clues with the base like it 102 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:06,139 would have something to do with magnets 103 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:09,430 right and uh some sort of magnets and 104 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:14,360 understanding of physics with the 105 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:17,090 gravity you know the but because there's 106 00:05:21,340 --> 00:05:18,620 a black there's a picture with the black 107 00:05:24,719 --> 00:05:21,350 box and that's the key and it try to 108 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:24,729 figure out is that some sort of magnet 109 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:28,780 related you know device what is that 110 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:31,610 because it's really unbelievable how he 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:37,630 pulled it off and nobody knows so but if 112 00:05:45,089 --> 00:05:40,570 good no no no dad finish your thought 113 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:45,099 what is I think that if he had known to 114 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:47,210 because there's a lot of Masonic things 115 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:50,449 incorporated and there's a lot of you 116 00:05:55,570 --> 00:05:52,490 know the whole idea of Agnes Mina's lost 117 00:05:57,820 --> 00:05:55,580 loves it's definitely not related to any 118 00:06:00,279 --> 00:05:57,830 girl you know these are like Masonic 119 00:06:02,409 --> 00:06:00,289 code words so I think he was kind of 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:02,419 conveying this sort of esoteric hidden 121 00:06:08,589 --> 00:06:06,370 knowledge that he came across and 122 00:06:11,409 --> 00:06:08,599 somehow was able to figure out how to 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:11,419 how to make these sort of rocks levitate 124 00:06:15,939 --> 00:06:13,970 make this make it light enough to move 125 00:06:17,620 --> 00:06:15,949 them around no I I guess I have to 126 00:06:18,159 --> 00:06:17,630 wonder if he didn't share with the 127 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:18,169 public 128 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:22,000 his technique for the Coral Castle 129 00:06:26,589 --> 00:06:25,070 perhaps he did share with somebody at 130 00:06:28,210 --> 00:06:26,599 some point and there's somebody else out 131 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:28,220 there that knows it because it just 132 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:32,409 seems odd to have access to such amazing 133 00:06:39,170 --> 00:06:36,050 technology energy whatever it is and not 134 00:06:43,659 --> 00:06:39,180 share that yeah it's it's kind of 135 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:46,450 yeah and then when you die everyone goes 136 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:49,250 ransack whatever is there and maybe 137 00:06:53,619 --> 00:06:51,289 it'll pop up at a later date you know 138 00:06:55,659 --> 00:06:53,629 it's been so long and no one who was 139 00:06:58,089 --> 00:06:55,669 around during that time ever didn't know 140 00:07:00,399 --> 00:06:58,099 I mean he did everything in the you know 141 00:07:01,990 --> 00:07:00,409 in the veil of night so wasn't even I 142 00:07:05,409 --> 00:07:02,000 gotta have a random question for you 143 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:05,419 from Instagram it's totally unrelated 144 00:07:10,409 --> 00:07:07,280 but I have to ask you anyway glorp the 145 00:07:18,059 --> 00:07:10,419 alien asked what your favorite food is 146 00:07:24,369 --> 00:07:22,300 Natasha because I love Vietnamese meat 147 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:24,379 many as fast as well yeah that's very 148 00:07:31,269 --> 00:07:27,409 good but I I would have to say that 149 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:31,279 Jamaican food you know curry goat jerk 150 00:07:37,089 --> 00:07:34,310 chicken you know rice no yeah that's 151 00:07:38,529 --> 00:07:37,099 froggy the best in the world I couldn't 152 00:07:39,129 --> 00:07:38,539 I could do Jamaican food but yeah I'm a 153 00:07:44,140 --> 00:07:39,139 vegetarian 154 00:07:46,089 --> 00:07:44,150 so it limits me my my menu but I mean 155 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:46,099 the rosters are all vegetarian so 156 00:07:49,629 --> 00:07:48,080 there's true true but it's not often you 157 00:07:53,490 --> 00:07:49,639 find a restaurant that's like just a 158 00:07:56,170 --> 00:07:53,500 Rastafarian you know style cuisine 159 00:07:58,629 --> 00:07:56,180 anyway alright so let's let's let's get 160 00:07:59,920 --> 00:07:58,639 back to the the main topic if we can 161 00:08:03,610 --> 00:07:59,930 because I only have so much time with 162 00:08:05,499 --> 00:08:03,620 you and it's a it's a broad area of 163 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:05,509 research and I know you focused 164 00:08:10,829 --> 00:08:08,000 specifically on ancient aliens in the 165 00:08:12,850 --> 00:08:10,839 Bible but it obviously goes beyond that 166 00:08:15,249 --> 00:08:12,860 including research into ancient 167 00:08:16,659 --> 00:08:15,259 Mesopotamia so a lot of people are 168 00:08:20,740 --> 00:08:16,669 familiar with the connections between 169 00:08:23,290 --> 00:08:20,750 these you know the the Babylonian 170 00:08:24,999 --> 00:08:23,300 cylinders Mesopotamian cylinders and the 171 00:08:27,700 --> 00:08:25,009 Bible but some people are and some 172 00:08:31,740 --> 00:08:27,710 people may just be getting used to this 173 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:31,750 so can you just give us an overall 174 00:08:39,089 --> 00:08:35,810 explanation as to how the two are 175 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:42,509 in the Sumerian context in the Sumerian 176 00:08:46,769 --> 00:08:45,220 context correct yeah well the Sumerian 177 00:08:51,299 --> 00:08:46,779 context basically comes from Zechariah 178 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:51,309 citizen 12 planet and a bunch of ancient 179 00:08:58,590 --> 00:08:55,839 alien themed sci-fi type books right and 180 00:09:01,829 --> 00:08:58,600 most of our history does come either 181 00:09:03,449 --> 00:09:01,839 Babylonian or HD gypped right or even if 182 00:09:05,309 --> 00:09:03,459 you're looking to the the Hindus in 183 00:09:06,179 --> 00:09:05,319 ancient India got all kind of tell the 184 00:09:09,989 --> 00:09:06,189 same story 185 00:09:11,579 --> 00:09:09,999 right but the you know in Sumeria you 186 00:09:13,889 --> 00:09:11,589 find the kind of the same characters you 187 00:09:16,650 --> 00:09:13,899 know you'll find Enoch you'll find a 188 00:09:19,889 --> 00:09:16,660 Noah figure you know you have a 189 00:09:22,139 --> 00:09:19,899 Gilgamesh right who was you know one of 190 00:09:24,929 --> 00:09:22,149 the ancient giant kings and suppose that 191 00:09:27,540 --> 00:09:24,939 they found Gilgamesh his body before the 192 00:09:29,970 --> 00:09:27,550 Iraq war started it was a big deal no 193 00:09:32,699 --> 00:09:29,980 because he was a giant so maybe he was 194 00:09:36,259 --> 00:09:32,709 13 or 14 feet so do you believe that 195 00:09:38,809 --> 00:09:36,269 they did find him his body really that's 196 00:09:41,069 --> 00:09:38,819 yeah I spoke to the actual the 197 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:41,079 archaeologists a German archaeologists 198 00:09:46,259 --> 00:09:43,839 who was responsible he told me 100 199 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:46,269 percent found it and meet almost 200 00:09:53,850 --> 00:09:49,600 immediately the war happened and they 201 00:09:56,309 --> 00:09:53,860 were basically access was denied and 202 00:10:00,720 --> 00:09:56,319 blocked and they've never been able to 203 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:00,730 go back literally so and that story is 204 00:10:06,030 --> 00:10:03,610 down the memory hole you know but yeah 205 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:06,040 so you had you have a lot of these these 206 00:10:13,139 --> 00:10:10,959 tales in the Sumerian in the tablets and 207 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:13,149 even in the art you seem you know every 208 00:10:18,329 --> 00:10:16,059 every all that kind of free is a Connor 209 00:10:20,629 --> 00:10:18,339 free is like something flying around you 210 00:10:24,210 --> 00:10:20,639 know there's always some sort of 211 00:10:26,489 --> 00:10:24,220 spaceship or imagery of something flying 212 00:10:29,939 --> 00:10:26,499 you know wait what did you call it 213 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:29,949 I can Aughra fear oh I can aggravate 214 00:10:37,530 --> 00:10:35,529 okay I got the mumble mouth so you know 215 00:10:40,999 --> 00:10:37,540 the truth is in the art right so if you 216 00:10:44,420 --> 00:10:41,009 look at why do all ancient cultures 217 00:10:47,060 --> 00:10:44,430 portray things flying around 218 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:47,070 no even in the Renaissance art there's a 219 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:50,490 lot of spaceships or a lot of UFOs or 220 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:54,089 flying saucers things that don't even 221 00:11:00,400 --> 00:10:56,700 make sense you know so it can't be just 222 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:00,410 a modern preconceived idea since the 223 00:11:06,050 --> 00:11:02,730 from the nuclear age you know there has 224 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:06,060 to be other ways to explain it if we're 225 00:11:10,940 --> 00:11:07,850 seeing this over and over again 226 00:11:16,070 --> 00:11:10,950 literally since the beginning of what we 227 00:11:18,410 --> 00:11:16,080 know as civilization so there are two 228 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:18,420 stories that we are familiar with in 229 00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:20,880 both of these um works of literature 230 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:23,279 well I don't know if it if the cylinders 231 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:24,990 are considered works of literature but 232 00:11:33,710 --> 00:11:29,700 um the Bible has a story of Noah as does 233 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:33,720 the Sumerian tale and the name is 234 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:35,490 slipping me do you know the character in 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:48,510 the the main definitely a longing so but 236 00:11:51,170 --> 00:11:49,890 there this is one of the first things 237 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:51,180 and a lot of people have heard about 238 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:55,350 this this is one of the first things 239 00:12:01,100 --> 00:11:58,050 that stand out to the reader of the 240 00:12:02,630 --> 00:12:01,110 Sumerian stories because it it's 241 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:02,640 familiar because it sounds almost 242 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:06,870 identical to the Noah story so do you 243 00:12:12,230 --> 00:12:09,570 believe that that in fact the Bible was 244 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:12,240 modeled off of this story the Noah tale 245 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:15,570 in the Bible definitely because you know 246 00:12:22,820 --> 00:12:19,680 these are these are ancient tales and 247 00:12:24,199 --> 00:12:22,830 usually what happens is the myths you I 248 00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:24,209 believe that all myths are based on 249 00:12:28,730 --> 00:12:26,310 reality right and eventually these myths 250 00:12:30,110 --> 00:12:28,740 are going to be retold and you know 251 00:12:32,060 --> 00:12:30,120 depending on whether they're coming out 252 00:12:36,699 --> 00:12:32,070 of if they're coming out of the ancient 253 00:12:39,530 --> 00:12:36,709 Egypt into the Hebrew into those type of 254 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:39,540 so there's a replacing of characters 255 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:43,770 with Hebrew characters and basically you 256 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:47,730 know kind of re-editing of older tales I 257 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:49,890 mean if these tales are ten thousand 258 00:12:54,220 --> 00:12:51,720 twelve thousand years old or eight 259 00:12:56,020 --> 00:12:54,230 thousand and yes six thousand 260 00:12:58,570 --> 00:12:56,030 you know a lot of things you lost the 261 00:13:01,240 --> 00:12:58,580 translation and then the myths and oral 262 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:01,250 traditions they will remain but 263 00:13:05,050 --> 00:13:02,960 everything's gonna change 264 00:13:07,630 --> 00:13:05,060 it's like you have the Jesus and the 265 00:13:12,190 --> 00:13:07,640 Mithra and Osiris you know all these 266 00:13:13,780 --> 00:13:12,200 Astra theological occurrences that are 267 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:13,790 basically telling the same story you 268 00:13:18,010 --> 00:13:15,170 know but you can kind of look at it as 269 00:13:20,980 --> 00:13:18,020 Astro theology as well 12 disciples you 270 00:13:23,020 --> 00:13:20,990 know the 12 12 signs of zodiac 271 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:23,030 stuff like this you have the whole 272 00:13:29,950 --> 00:13:25,910 number of precession which comes up in 273 00:13:32,650 --> 00:13:29,960 the 72 you know 72 followers of Horus 274 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:32,660 you know all the instances with that you 275 00:13:36,070 --> 00:13:34,250 can look up it's ridiculous these are 276 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:36,080 just kind of you know talking about 277 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:37,760 precession something that they shouldn't 278 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:40,840 have known but somehow they knew about 279 00:13:48,580 --> 00:13:46,250 so I think if you get into the ancient 280 00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:48,590 Egyptian and even the ancient Sumerian 281 00:13:55,690 --> 00:13:51,380 stuff you're gonna be surprised at how 282 00:13:59,560 --> 00:13:55,700 much of it is similar not all of it of 283 00:14:01,810 --> 00:13:59,570 course but the basic group stories and 284 00:14:02,980 --> 00:14:01,820 the important stories you are kind of 285 00:14:05,830 --> 00:14:02,990 there so I think it kind of validates 286 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:05,840 the Bible makes you know you know 287 00:14:10,860 --> 00:14:08,750 they're bringing other older things to 288 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:10,870 light and it's still relevant people 289 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:13,400 people misinterpreted or whatever but 290 00:14:18,820 --> 00:14:15,170 it's pretty interesting that you know 291 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:18,830 there's so many people that could read 292 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:21,710 the book of Genesis and not even truly 293 00:14:28,510 --> 00:14:22,880 understand what they're trying to say 294 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:28,520 right now so I think that it's kind of a 295 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:33,110 controversial approach that you take not 296 00:14:38,530 --> 00:14:35,950 for me but for a lot of other people 297 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:38,540 because you I think you're quite 298 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:40,810 resolved and you make a very strong 299 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:46,810 intentional point that you feel like 300 00:14:57,820 --> 00:14:53,470 people's understanding of the Bible is 301 00:15:00,070 --> 00:14:57,830 sorely not intellectual they're missing 302 00:15:02,950 --> 00:15:00,080 the point of what's actually going on 303 00:15:06,730 --> 00:15:02,960 here and that people are sort of easily 304 00:15:07,780 --> 00:15:06,740 brainwashed into believing and that's 305 00:15:09,970 --> 00:15:07,790 based on you know you 306 00:15:12,010 --> 00:15:09,980 preachers that that raise people and and 307 00:15:14,020 --> 00:15:12,020 they're so adamant they repeat the same 308 00:15:16,170 --> 00:15:14,030 thing over and over and over again um I 309 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:16,180 can I can understand the parallel there 310 00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:18,170 but I'll say this 311 00:15:25,570 --> 00:15:21,670 you also take an approach that is very 312 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:25,580 strong-willed you know so you do 313 00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:27,020 challenge that they make an assertion 314 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:30,140 with with certainty but you yourself 315 00:15:35,050 --> 00:15:32,330 it's in the book it feels like you're 316 00:15:40,990 --> 00:15:35,060 making an assertion with of certainty as 317 00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:41,000 well yeah cuz I'm trying to assert 318 00:15:48,220 --> 00:15:45,200 what's actually being said you know 319 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:48,230 according to morrow Bellino was the top 320 00:15:54,580 --> 00:15:51,830 Vatican translator for over 20 years did 321 00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:54,590 a bunch of books and he got to the point 322 00:16:00,340 --> 00:15:58,100 where he was tired of having to change 323 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:00,350 it to make it ethereal make it more of a 324 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:04,190 vision or dreams or spiritual aspect 325 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:06,470 instead of concrete physical happenings 326 00:16:11,260 --> 00:16:07,850 which were they were describing 327 00:16:14,590 --> 00:16:11,270 according to the translations so for me 328 00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:14,600 my problem is the whole the whole 329 00:16:22,650 --> 00:16:17,630 undermining aspect of religion is cold 330 00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:22,660 right there just cults and yeah yeah 331 00:16:27,730 --> 00:16:24,860 well I mean what it is is money so I 332 00:16:30,070 --> 00:16:27,740 mean it's they control you brainwash you 333 00:16:31,690 --> 00:16:30,080 with fear and you know it's all about 334 00:16:35,020 --> 00:16:31,700 money that's why you're gonna hear a lot 335 00:16:37,660 --> 00:16:35,030 of these preachers teaching you and 336 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:37,670 focusing on other things not the 337 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:39,530 concrete historical things of the Bible 338 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:40,910 you know it's gonna be the things that 339 00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:44,000 are meant to enchant you and to scare 340 00:16:49,180 --> 00:16:46,580 you and you know all these fancy words 341 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:49,190 and you know these sort of proverbs and 342 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:52,010 provisions that don't give you the 343 00:16:55,270 --> 00:16:53,960 historical aspect I want to like when I 344 00:16:58,060 --> 00:16:55,280 go to church I want to learn something 345 00:17:00,690 --> 00:16:58,070 you know no I don't want to hear just be 346 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:00,700 have a sermon that's just rhetoric and 347 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:04,130 you know inspired to make me think you 348 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:06,170 know to keep my faith and to give you 349 00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:08,450 some money I want to learn I want to 350 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:09,710 hear about the Giants I want to hear 351 00:17:14,290 --> 00:17:12,170 about some history what parts of the the 352 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:14,300 of the Bible are actually historic you 353 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:14,890 know 354 00:17:24,510 --> 00:17:22,000 so I it works kind of both ways yes but 355 00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:24,520 I think that um it does require some 356 00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:26,589 level of interpretation on both sides 357 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:29,350 right you know so if we look at the 358 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:30,760 Bible and we look at the evidence and we 359 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:32,710 say hey you know this is quite 360 00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:35,290 convincing we think that this is an 361 00:17:41,220 --> 00:17:39,220 ancient alien story but you you can't 362 00:17:43,049 --> 00:17:41,230 just look at everything literally right 363 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:43,059 you have to have some interpretation on 364 00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:47,470 that side as well well yeah you have to 365 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:49,960 be able to disseminate what you're 366 00:17:53,570 --> 00:17:50,559 talking about 367 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:53,580 mm-hmm it's not everything is gonna be 368 00:18:00,240 --> 00:17:58,240 clear-cut case right you know so but is 369 00:18:03,419 --> 00:18:00,250 but the thing is to have an open mind 370 00:18:06,090 --> 00:18:03,429 you know if they're fair our modern UFO 371 00:18:09,810 --> 00:18:06,100 things going on mm-hmm I wouldn't there 372 00:18:12,180 --> 00:18:09,820 be ancient yeah they're modern you know 373 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:12,190 and if like and then you have to think 374 00:18:18,330 --> 00:18:15,610 about well how much of the of these UFO 375 00:18:22,590 --> 00:18:18,340 encounters today are actual UFOs as in 376 00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:22,600 aliens or top-secret government projects 377 00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:25,929 no how much of the is 80% of all UFO 378 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:27,870 encounters flown by the military in 379 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:30,850 secret projects I mean that's far more 380 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:34,570 entertaining in in logical you know to 381 00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:37,570 think into to ponder on so I think you 382 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:40,120 know but the problem is religion has 383 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:44,500 such a grip on on the world right 384 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:47,350 there's billions and billions of people 385 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:49,450 and they're all kind of under some sort 386 00:18:58,409 --> 00:18:53,679 of form of religion and what would 387 00:19:00,600 --> 00:18:58,419 happen if this technology that's secret 388 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:00,610 technology and what's going to happen 389 00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:05,950 with all of these structures that were 390 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:08,230 all a prison or two with oil with 391 00:19:12,030 --> 00:19:11,049 everything else you know so what what's 392 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:12,040 gonna happen with the religious 393 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:13,510 structure with the financial structure 394 00:19:21,690 --> 00:19:18,040 with you know environment technologies 395 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:21,700 if this is released if this so-called 396 00:19:27,930 --> 00:19:25,110 alien thing is actually real 397 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:27,940 so this is from the introduction of your 398 00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:29,950 book you're right it's a history full of 399 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:32,559 incredible truths ancient aliens Giants 400 00:19:37,650 --> 00:19:35,110 advanced technologies and lost cultures 401 00:19:39,419 --> 00:19:37,660 it is also a history that all human 402 00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:39,429 beings share and deserve to know about 403 00:19:44,130 --> 00:19:41,980 of course once this history is exposed 404 00:19:47,850 --> 00:19:44,140 the three big religions will pretty much 405 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:47,860 are null and void and bankrupt both 406 00:19:52,049 --> 00:19:49,210 financially and spiritually 407 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:52,059 you see these religious power structures 408 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:54,370 known as Christianity Judaism and Islam 409 00:19:59,490 --> 00:19:56,710 are all dependent on you being afraid of 410 00:20:01,200 --> 00:19:59,500 God you must fear going to hell and be 411 00:20:03,290 --> 00:20:01,210 subservient of the teachings and beliefs 412 00:20:06,049 --> 00:20:03,300 of a religion was so-called 413 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:06,059 prophets that you must love and worship 414 00:20:16,020 --> 00:20:13,210 and quote as an ex-catholic I can relate 415 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:16,030 to much of what is said in there though 416 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:19,690 I will say that when I was an active 417 00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:25,000 Christian the whole purpose of my being 418 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:28,240 a Christian was to enact love and 419 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:30,010 compassion and at least that's the 420 00:20:36,540 --> 00:20:34,210 church that I was raised in granted yes 421 00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:36,550 sir there was the fear factor but you 422 00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:37,590 know it was very much 423 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:40,120 you know culturally indoctrinated into 424 00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:42,400 me that that's not that's not why you're 425 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:44,800 a Christian you know it's it's it's the 426 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:47,050 positive message but then you're forced 427 00:20:52,830 --> 00:20:51,190 to ignore a vengeful God you know a 428 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:52,840 spiteful God I mean there's those are 429 00:20:57,630 --> 00:20:55,570 facts right I mean that that is what 430 00:21:01,230 --> 00:20:57,640 what are you're faced with in in the Old 431 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:01,240 Testament in particular but in the 432 00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:02,710 beginning that you talk about aliens 433 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:06,550 giants advanced technologies so when 434 00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:09,100 what was the first clue that stood out 435 00:21:15,810 --> 00:21:12,480 for you that something is not quite as 436 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:15,820 you were told what was the thing that 437 00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:17,110 stood out and you thought we admit there 438 00:21:23,030 --> 00:21:19,260 might be another story going on here 439 00:21:25,710 --> 00:21:23,040 other than I've been I've been taught 440 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:25,720 well I think you're right in saying that 441 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:27,880 you know the whole point of being a 442 00:21:31,049 --> 00:21:29,410 Christian or need these 443 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:31,059 Sorby legends is to make you a better 444 00:21:35,130 --> 00:21:33,250 person and to teach you love and to 445 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:35,140 teach you know that's why the story of 446 00:21:39,299 --> 00:21:37,210 Jesus timeless because it's a beautiful 447 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:39,309 story and it's these are good things you 448 00:21:47,159 --> 00:21:43,090 know the parables but has for me the you 449 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:47,169 know the I can't really say one thing or 450 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:49,360 another I just kind of when you when 451 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:51,010 you're reading Chariots of the Gods as a 452 00:21:56,130 --> 00:21:54,370 teenager and you know I didn't have a 453 00:21:58,260 --> 00:21:56,140 religious upbringing basically like my 454 00:22:00,659 --> 00:21:58,270 grandmother she took me to church when I 455 00:22:02,850 --> 00:22:00,669 was a kid and there was you know the 456 00:22:04,409 --> 00:22:02,860 Illustrated Bible stories and all this 457 00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:04,419 and that those are great those were cool 458 00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:06,760 you know I still have my picture Bible 459 00:22:10,650 --> 00:22:09,160 yeah I love all that you know I 460 00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:10,660 appreciated that you know it's pretty 461 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:12,940 cool but you know when I got a little 462 00:22:19,169 --> 00:22:16,990 older I was never forced you know to be 463 00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:19,179 a Christian or to be you know whatever 464 00:22:24,780 --> 00:22:22,030 it was there was no I would go visit my 465 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:24,790 Mormon friends you know yeah see how 466 00:22:29,940 --> 00:22:26,710 that went down you know I had friends 467 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:29,950 from you know all various backgrounds 468 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:34,240 but I was kind of just luckily you know 469 00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:36,160 I was kind of free to kind of just read 470 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:37,900 what I want and kind of make my own way 471 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:40,240 and so I just kind of studied you know 472 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:44,110 all religions basically kind of picked 473 00:22:50,130 --> 00:22:47,290 apart everything but I had UFO 474 00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,140 encounters as a teenager so I always 475 00:22:55,169 --> 00:22:52,240 kind of in and paranormal encounters 476 00:22:57,150 --> 00:22:55,179 right so I kind of you know and I'm a 477 00:23:00,030 --> 00:22:57,160 little psychic myself and I kind of 478 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:00,040 understand how society like you're 479 00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:02,650 gifted these as a child in society kind 480 00:23:08,610 --> 00:23:05,740 of eats it out of you and very few kind 481 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:08,620 of retain it right so I've always kind 482 00:23:13,650 --> 00:23:10,510 of known there's those other things 483 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:13,660 going on and and you know ancient aliens 484 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:16,510 and change the gods or modern aliens 485 00:23:22,540 --> 00:23:18,370 like I just kind of been into all this I 486 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:22,550 was never afraid basically into 487 00:23:28,090 --> 00:23:25,490 to question or to even think about any 488 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:28,100 of these things and I think once you 489 00:23:32,980 --> 00:23:30,830 remove that fear you know once you kind 490 00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:32,990 of like me and God are cool like I kind 491 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,380 of grew up in a Rastafarian you know 492 00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:37,120 mm-hmm 493 00:23:44,770 --> 00:23:40,220 basically that was kind of the what but 494 00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:44,780 basically saved me and guided me right 495 00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:47,630 list of Rastafarian principles and you 496 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,270 know all the reggae stuff right so well 497 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:53,120 you know what though that always we 498 00:23:59,140 --> 00:23:55,570 found that curious then the south what 499 00:24:01,240 --> 00:23:59,150 Solihull Ostrom I forget the UM 500 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:01,250 Haile Selassie are they still hace yes 501 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:04,370 yes the fact that that he was supposed 502 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:06,170 to be the sort of Savior and Messiah I 503 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:10,480 see zero evidence for that and and I 504 00:24:17,650 --> 00:24:15,350 frien's like reconciled it was a big 505 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:17,660 deal for me to come across that and to 506 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:20,090 kind of like wait a minute but then it 507 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:21,410 was cool cuz I was like yeah that guy I 508 00:24:25,570 --> 00:24:23,030 mean obviously that guy has no prophet 509 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:25,580 that guy's a dictator no I mean like so 510 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:29,360 that doesn't it doesn't negate right it 511 00:24:35,470 --> 00:24:33,890 doesn't exactly but the Rosses like the 512 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:35,480 hardcore ones they need to know that 513 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:37,970 they need to they need to like learn 514 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:40,490 that and then kind of be you know not so 515 00:24:45,130 --> 00:24:42,770 much riding just dictators you know coat 516 00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:45,140 those guys freaking murderer as two 517 00:24:50,050 --> 00:24:46,580 people in Eritrea you know about 518 00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:50,060 Selassie I you know you you're not gonna 519 00:24:54,670 --> 00:24:53,390 get a very rough to answer right so my 520 00:24:57,790 --> 00:24:54,680 guess that could be that's the danger of 521 00:25:00,220 --> 00:24:57,800 religion is that for all its all it's 522 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:00,230 good you can turn a blind eye to 523 00:25:04,060 --> 00:25:02,330 something that's it's clear like like 524 00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:04,070 Catholics you know not all Catholics but 525 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:05,360 Catholics for a long time didn't want to 526 00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:09,650 hear about child molestation you know 527 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:11,990 they didn't want to hear that but 528 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,210 finally it just gotten so blatant that 529 00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:17,120 they had to do you want to deal with 530 00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:19,300 that yeah and it's still an issue 531 00:25:33,780 --> 00:25:30,220 there's a bro they're the greatest 532 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,790 they's on social commentary for sure 533 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:36,080 yah-yah-yah do they crush it every time 534 00:25:38,380 --> 00:25:37,610 they're amazing and they're funny 535 00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:38,390 ourselves 536 00:25:44,169 --> 00:25:40,280 and that's the hardest art form two 537 00:25:45,340 --> 00:25:44,179 masters comedy so props to them well 538 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,350 yeah especially if you're doing comedy 539 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:48,320 that that edgy and that challenge to 540 00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:51,160 institutions yeah that takes a lot of 541 00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:56,870 careful thought mm-hmm all right so so 542 00:26:01,390 --> 00:25:59,600 then where do you stand now as you're 543 00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:01,400 reading through the Bible and you've 544 00:26:04,270 --> 00:26:02,179 read through the Bible and you've 545 00:26:06,130 --> 00:26:04,280 studied and you've written this book and 546 00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:06,140 other books you know where do you stand 547 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:09,470 now spiritually the do you do you have 548 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:12,890 something that you turn to oh yeah I 549 00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,530 don't think I've really changed oh this 550 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:17,360 has changed my spiritual beliefs it just 551 00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:20,690 kind of strengthens you know what what 552 00:26:27,070 --> 00:26:24,169 I've always kind of believed I mean you 553 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:27,080 know the problem is you have to learn to 554 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:29,450 separate the true God which is 555 00:26:34,780 --> 00:26:33,049 metaphysical mm-hmm right from what 556 00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:34,790 they're kind of talking about in in the 557 00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:36,470 Bible you know they're they're 558 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:39,710 describing physical beings like God has 559 00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:41,690 described in the Bible isn't really God 560 00:26:47,169 --> 00:26:44,590 you know it's he might be God like right 561 00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:47,179 maybe have the ability to alter genetics 562 00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:50,960 and be a superior commander of his space 563 00:26:55,419 --> 00:26:53,000 fleet or whatever but that's not God oh 564 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:55,429 so well let's look hold it there and 565 00:26:59,409 --> 00:26:56,690 we'll come back from this first break 566 00:27:01,210 --> 00:26:59,419 and we'll talk about who the Anunnaki 567 00:27:04,299 --> 00:27:01,220 were and who do you think the gods 568 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:04,309 actually were in the Old Testament this 569 00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:06,290 is Alan B Smith for paranormal now on 570 00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:08,030 the inception radio network my guest is 571 00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:11,270 David Hayes author of ancient aliens in 572 00:27:15,130 --> 00:27:13,460 the Bible evidence of UFOs Nephilim and 573 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:15,140 the true face of angels in ancient 574 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:17,210 scriptures hang on tight we will be 575 00:27:28,409 --> 00:27:26,269 [Music] 576 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:28,419 welcome back to paranormal now on the 577 00:27:33,239 --> 00:27:30,609 inception radio network and my guest 578 00:27:35,249 --> 00:27:33,249 tonight is avian Hays author of ancient 579 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:35,259 aliens in the Bible evidence of UFOs 580 00:27:42,479 --> 00:27:38,200 Nephilim and the true faces of angels in 581 00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:42,489 ancient scriptures and taking us out of 582 00:27:45,719 --> 00:27:45,279 the first break was jamming by Bob 583 00:27:49,109 --> 00:27:45,729 Marley 584 00:27:50,779 --> 00:27:49,119 all right so Sabian I wanna we didn't 585 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:50,789 really get a chance to actually deep 586 00:28:00,119 --> 00:27:55,450 deeply dive into this topic so again 587 00:28:05,849 --> 00:28:00,129 let's start with from the beginning who 588 00:28:08,879 --> 00:28:05,859 are the gods that or God singular that 589 00:28:12,299 --> 00:28:08,889 we think we know as a spirit being in 590 00:28:14,009 --> 00:28:12,309 the Bible well first of all the word God 591 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:14,019 never really existed in any language 592 00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:16,570 that's always been plural mm-hmm so he's 593 00:28:19,349 --> 00:28:18,700 been gods even I think Hilo heem is like 594 00:28:23,339 --> 00:28:19,359 gods 595 00:28:27,169 --> 00:28:23,349 you know there's really no God I'm start 596 00:28:32,489 --> 00:28:27,179 talking about in reference to these 597 00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:32,499 Annunaki Annunaki eloheem these are 598 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:35,919 basically the watchers right and there's 599 00:28:43,229 --> 00:28:39,129 a yes once to the Sumerian texts yeah 600 00:28:45,899 --> 00:28:43,239 and these are the you know basically the 601 00:28:48,419 --> 00:28:45,909 watchers and the ones who kind of from 602 00:28:52,259 --> 00:28:48,429 heaven to earth came and these were the 603 00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:52,269 gods right responsible for kind of 604 00:28:57,330 --> 00:28:56,200 creating a mankind and creating the 605 00:29:02,359 --> 00:28:57,340 heaven earth and everything else 606 00:29:06,869 --> 00:29:02,369 basically so these guys these gods 607 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:06,879 excuse me you know these guys like my 608 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:12,220 New York or something man so they kind 609 00:29:19,109 --> 00:29:15,849 of did the first what we know as genetic 610 00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,119 experiments right mm-hm and talk in the 611 00:29:25,229 --> 00:29:21,039 book of Genesis mentions this talks 612 00:29:28,919 --> 00:29:25,239 about it so they were doing the making 613 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:28,929 the Adam and Eve's and it's not how we 614 00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:31,210 believe it to be and 615 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,780 you know it's a race they're describing 616 00:29:40,530 --> 00:29:37,120 a race you know the Adam Adama on the 617 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:40,540 earth earth was the Adama right and 618 00:29:43,910 --> 00:29:42,490 anyone who is willing to like Battlestar 619 00:29:46,260 --> 00:29:43,920 Galactica 620 00:29:49,850 --> 00:29:46,270 that's gonna teach you a lot if you 621 00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:49,860 check that out that series credible 622 00:29:55,070 --> 00:29:53,350 basically is all this so the Adama is 623 00:29:59,930 --> 00:29:55,080 essentially it's another way of saying 624 00:30:03,360 --> 00:29:59,940 the beginnings like from the earth right 625 00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:03,370 because the atom right the race from 626 00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:05,980 that from the earth so the Adama from 627 00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:07,660 the earth right so this is a specific 628 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:11,670 race creating from from the earth and 629 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:14,320 even even in the in the words that 630 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:15,970 describe in Hebrew they're talking about 631 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:19,930 slicing and you know gene slicing in DNA 632 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:22,210 slicing right they're using these actual 633 00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:25,450 terms are really incredible to think 634 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:27,340 that they'd be trying to describe 635 00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:30,670 something as complex as gene editing and 636 00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:34,270 splicing you know thousands so the 637 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:37,630 original Hebrew they used words that or 638 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,100 a word that meant slicing yeah it's in 639 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:43,840 the book I can't recall top of my head 640 00:30:48,750 --> 00:30:46,810 but definitely in look it describes it 641 00:30:51,870 --> 00:30:48,760 more okay yeah they're talking about 642 00:30:53,730 --> 00:30:51,880 cutting up genes man and also it's 643 00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:53,740 interesting to note that you know Adam 644 00:30:59,130 --> 00:30:55,480 Eve weren't the first day they failed in 645 00:31:03,900 --> 00:30:59,140 many experiments before right and if you 646 00:31:06,510 --> 00:31:03,910 see a bunch of the Sumerian you know on 647 00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:06,520 the text and in these clay tablets and 648 00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:08,380 you're gonna find a bunch of hybrid 649 00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:12,390 animal creatures in the Griffin and a 650 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:16,600 lot of weird weird kind of experimental 651 00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:20,890 beings that don't make sense and you 652 00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:23,860 know they don't exist according to what 653 00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:26,800 we know of history so if they were 654 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:30,400 playing God right with the genetic codes 655 00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:35,530 and creating humanoids you know because 656 00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:38,820 this says that if god if when man made 657 00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:40,990 when God made man and made in his own 658 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:43,260 image you know so does 659 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:46,290 I mean they're humanoid right they look 660 00:31:54,110 --> 00:31:51,410 like us right yeah were they from Mars 661 00:31:58,030 --> 00:31:54,120 good question you know cuz Mars seems to 662 00:32:00,860 --> 00:31:58,040 be like earth and we could find so much 663 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:00,870 ruins on Mars and so many fossils 664 00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:03,210 evidence of oceans and even still 665 00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:05,990 there's water there blues blue skies and 666 00:32:12,260 --> 00:32:09,270 all kinds of crazy things going on Mars 667 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,270 so you know where do they come from Mars 668 00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:14,240 something happened there and they came 669 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:17,990 yeah the Mars thing always kind of 670 00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:21,410 didn't sound quite convincing because 671 00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:24,150 imagine us imagine we were on this 672 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:25,740 planet this planet was going bad and 673 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:28,650 Mars was the good planet it seems to me 674 00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,510 we would just jump and settle down there 675 00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:32,640 and make that our home and so it seems 676 00:32:38,270 --> 00:32:35,700 weird that if they were living on Mars 677 00:32:40,910 --> 00:32:38,280 and they came over to earth because 678 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:40,920 earth looked good you know why would 679 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:42,690 they just be why wouldn't they still be 680 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:44,880 here ruling the planet as a warrior you 681 00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:49,200 know well it depends on what timeline 682 00:32:55,780 --> 00:32:53,160 that happened know how at what point now 683 00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:55,790 was Mars destroyed was Mars destroyed 684 00:33:02,480 --> 00:32:58,740 million years ago or 20,000 years ago 685 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:02,490 right and maybe they were here and they 686 00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:06,690 died off or they went somewhere else or 687 00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:10,980 they kind of disis immolated into just 688 00:33:16,670 --> 00:33:13,350 passed down through history I mean hmm 689 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:16,680 we don't know there there's a lot of 690 00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:20,640 mysterious things on Mars that have to 691 00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:24,030 be explained somehow true and I suppose 692 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:26,430 a few if you really speculate you know 693 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:28,530 this this could be such an advanced race 694 00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:31,410 that they don't need one planet they can 695 00:33:38,390 --> 00:33:34,740 just you know traverse the universe does 696 00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:38,400 it cut the galaxy so maybe earth isn't 697 00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:39,750 such a big deal to them because they 698 00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:42,110 have you know a hundred other earths 699 00:33:47,820 --> 00:33:45,900 that they can write they're finding 700 00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:47,830 habitable planets all the time you know 701 00:33:53,130 --> 00:33:48,940 we don't know what happened in this 702 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:53,140 solar system we don't know if basically 703 00:34:00,390 --> 00:33:58,090 they were they were chasing someone here 704 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:00,400 that went into the solar system and they 705 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:03,370 had to destroy a planet and then they 706 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:05,410 had to come hide on another planet to 707 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:08,170 get away and then maybe they put a web 708 00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:11,530 around the earth to imprison them that's 709 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,060 why you have the Native American myths 710 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,520 of the great web in the sky maybe 711 00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:17,200 they've been stuck here for so long that 712 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:19,750 they've kind of been able to change the 713 00:34:24,450 --> 00:34:21,850 atmosphere and trying everything they 714 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:24,460 can with their secret space programs and 715 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:27,130 maybe secret missions on Mars everything 716 00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:30,850 they can to get out of here knows some 717 00:34:42,510 --> 00:34:36,580 best feel like that right now the truth 718 00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:42,520 is you have you have evidence of things 719 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:45,880 in the universe that make it so 720 00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:49,300 improbable and so amazing that we're the 721 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:50,950 only people here like it just is 722 00:34:58,260 --> 00:34:56,290 ridiculous I think it is I think as soon 723 00:35:02,520 --> 00:34:58,270 as we find the first piece of any kind 724 00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:02,530 of life even simple life elsewhere then 725 00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:04,870 I think the there won't be so much of an 726 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:07,840 argument about life in other parts of 727 00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:12,090 the universe or galaxies at least and 728 00:35:15,690 --> 00:35:14,800 it's not a big leap I don't think to 729 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:15,700 think that there would be intelligent 730 00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:17,410 life considering you have billions and 731 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:20,800 billions of years and the you know 732 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:23,920 primordial soup you know all over the 733 00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:28,840 galaxy so yeah I think that'll be good 734 00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:31,120 when we get to that point but you know I 735 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:34,180 think it would be better if we just find 736 00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:37,170 some evidence clear-cut and unavoidable 737 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:41,500 uncovered up evidence you know of life 738 00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:44,710 on another another planet 739 00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:48,910 I know there are telescopes being put 740 00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:50,230 out the next couple of years one of them 741 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,470 is the James Webb telescope and these 742 00:36:00,270 --> 00:35:55,680 are supposed to give us clear-cut 743 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:00,280 evidence of whether a plan that does or 744 00:36:05,089 --> 00:36:00,930 does not 745 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:05,099 have a biological signature and so I 746 00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:06,690 think within the next couple years this 747 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:08,670 is gonna become a huge topic 748 00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:11,970 oh yeah the telescope's now are 749 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:14,670 incredible I mean the Vatican has you 750 00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:18,540 know just next-level type telescopes so 751 00:36:23,359 --> 00:36:21,180 yeah III it's just a matter of time you 752 00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:23,369 know plus it's a matter of slow 753 00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:26,460 disclosure so they're gonna roll it out 754 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:29,190 slowly no matter what and you know when 755 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:30,690 they find life it'll be a micro 756 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:33,450 microbial and of course you know just 757 00:36:38,359 --> 00:36:35,940 it'll be a slow disclosure but then you 758 00:36:40,339 --> 00:36:38,369 have to keep in mind the you know the 759 00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:40,349 the final card of the New World Order 760 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:43,380 basically with the fake alien invasion 761 00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:44,970 you know they got that up their sleeve 762 00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:46,680 that's what most of technology can't be 763 00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:50,700 revealed anyways so hopefully it doesn't 764 00:36:55,069 --> 00:36:52,500 come to that I don't think it's will I 765 00:36:56,780 --> 00:36:55,079 think they're being defeated daily so I 766 00:36:58,700 --> 00:36:56,790 don't think they're even gonna get 767 00:37:00,890 --> 00:36:58,710 anywhere close to pull that one off 768 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:00,900 but you still have to kind of you know 769 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:05,849 be aware of these tactics yeah I think 770 00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:07,770 it is it a slow disclosure I know there 771 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:09,480 are other people that think it's gonna 772 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:11,849 be a really slow disclosure like 100 773 00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:14,640 years or 200 years I don't think so 774 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:17,579 I think it'll be much much yes to 775 00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:20,130 advance for that well that's the thing I 776 00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:23,369 mean just just public technology is 777 00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:27,000 progressing so fast that you know you 778 00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:29,190 just you can't you know keep the secret 779 00:37:32,930 --> 00:37:30,900 in the box for for that much longer than 780 00:37:40,579 --> 00:37:32,940 you know we should be more worried about 781 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:40,589 being replaced by robots before yeah all 782 00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:42,450 right cool and if you're just tuning in 783 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:44,609 we're talking with zaevion Hayes author 784 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:49,170 of ancient aliens in the Bible and just 785 00:37:57,470 --> 00:37:52,730 a random shout-out to galaxia that's GA 786 00:38:00,109 --> 00:37:57,480 LAX underscore I a on Instagram who is 787 00:38:01,789 --> 00:38:00,119 opening up a new place in the New York 788 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:01,799 area where I live called ambrosia 789 00:38:06,319 --> 00:38:04,410 elixirs it's a community soft opening 790 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:06,329 out in Brooklyn so if you're in the 791 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:07,650 Brooklyn or New York area check them out 792 00:38:12,829 --> 00:38:10,290 the ambrosial Xers soft opening so I'm 793 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:12,839 not sure when the official date and time 794 00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:14,130 will be up soon but just 795 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:15,750 keep your eye out for those guys okay so 796 00:38:27,490 --> 00:38:22,170 let's go back to the gods okay so your 797 00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:27,500 idea is that these gods are not 798 00:38:33,859 --> 00:38:30,720 otherworldly I'm sorry not ethereal 799 00:38:38,269 --> 00:38:33,869 right there they're physical beings that 800 00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:38,279 were here the Nephilim okay so why were 801 00:38:46,819 --> 00:38:42,720 they here in the first place that is a 802 00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:46,829 really stated according to Sitchin they 803 00:38:54,049 --> 00:38:49,859 were here to mine gold they needed a 804 00:38:56,779 --> 00:38:54,059 further atmosphere which which is 805 00:38:58,249 --> 00:38:56,789 plausible because you know some other 806 00:39:02,269 --> 00:38:58,259 research and some other things I'm 807 00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:02,279 involved in I'm into gold and there's a 808 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,750 lot of gold in them there's a lot of 809 00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:09,119 gold that I'm currently into right now 810 00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:13,380 in history wise everything else but gold 811 00:39:18,799 --> 00:39:16,799 is very scarce you know it's it's it's I 812 00:39:20,539 --> 00:39:18,809 mean literally like from all the gold we 813 00:39:22,279 --> 00:39:20,549 know it can kind of fill maybe two 814 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:22,289 Olympic sized swimming pools that's not 815 00:39:26,779 --> 00:39:24,650 very much no no I'm very much at all 816 00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:26,789 there's a lot of fake gold there's a lot 817 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,230 of gold mixed with copper and silver 818 00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:31,200 which is most gold you see pure gold 819 00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:33,420 really doesn't exist I mean it's it 820 00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:36,150 exists but it's I mean extremely rare to 821 00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:38,910 find and in the odds that you're ever 822 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:39,720 gonna see it 823 00:39:45,499 --> 00:39:42,089 you know slim to none slim just left 824 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:45,509 town but you might get lucky my mic 825 00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:47,490 there there are things that are 826 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:49,980 happening that you know we all might be 827 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:52,650 blessed to see some real amazing gold in 828 00:39:58,279 --> 00:39:55,170 the future but the thing is if you have 829 00:40:01,789 --> 00:39:58,289 gold in all kinds of it could be used in 830 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:01,799 all kinds of applications right so you 831 00:40:05,509 --> 00:40:03,690 have it for when they send stuff into 832 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:05,519 space you know most of this gold shield 833 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:09,210 because it could protect right so the 834 00:40:14,809 --> 00:40:13,049 idea of having maybe a gold a cave 835 00:40:17,059 --> 00:40:14,819 let's take like the seven caves a gold 836 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:17,069 for instance the legends of El Dorado 837 00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:20,130 and soballe cetera Cities of Gold now 838 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,630 when they went to Peru they found walls 839 00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:26,640 of gold and they peeled the walls of 840 00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:27,150 gold 841 00:40:31,150 --> 00:40:29,700 right off the walls and they found it in 842 00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:31,160 areas that have the megalithic 843 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:33,990 structures ancient type of giant 844 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:36,930 structures mhm you know and you know 845 00:40:42,890 --> 00:40:40,290 olya tombow stuff so we do know that 846 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:42,900 there is such thing as walls of gold now 847 00:40:50,090 --> 00:40:46,010 what if let's say in the sacred cave 848 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:50,100 choocha MODOK the eighth according to 849 00:40:54,730 --> 00:40:52,770 the Aztecs and their history you know 850 00:40:59,260 --> 00:40:54,740 everything emerge from the sacred cave 851 00:41:02,660 --> 00:40:59,270 so was the sacred cave of gold used to 852 00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:02,670 protect them from a solar flare or from 853 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:04,680 whatever happened in during the flood 854 00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:07,890 and the jungle driest event so the idea 855 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:10,230 that these ancient you know even all the 856 00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:12,090 way back to the who what were these gods 857 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:13,950 and what were they looking for they're 858 00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:18,720 looking for gold right I mean what's 859 00:41:23,330 --> 00:41:20,280 double gold you know why is it 860 00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:23,340 untarnishable why does it look like it's 861 00:41:28,070 --> 00:41:25,560 literally the most amazing element in 862 00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:28,080 the world and and think about what it 863 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:30,230 does to everybody you know Gold Fever 864 00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:32,850 you know the whole concept of money 865 00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:38,670 right so if we were just nothing but 866 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,030 another mining colony and they needed 867 00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:44,160 slaves or they didn't whoever to build 868 00:41:50,330 --> 00:41:47,400 it and help mind and we were basically 869 00:41:52,750 --> 00:41:50,340 created for this it's kind of strange to 870 00:41:55,010 --> 00:41:52,760 think that how we still worship gold 871 00:41:57,730 --> 00:41:55,020 what I guess it's didn't really 872 00:41:59,960 --> 00:41:57,740 disenchanting to think that another 873 00:42:02,000 --> 00:41:59,970 extraterrestrial race would would come 874 00:42:07,820 --> 00:42:02,010 here and enslave people or just create a 875 00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:07,830 a hybrid race as it were to to do their 876 00:42:14,090 --> 00:42:12,300 bidding oh I think most you know mostly 877 00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:14,100 when we imagine oh well there's life out 878 00:42:18,110 --> 00:42:15,350 there is intelligent life 879 00:42:19,730 --> 00:42:18,120 we hope that then yeah maybe it's 880 00:42:23,530 --> 00:42:19,740 friendly maybe it's so advanced you know 881 00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:23,540 they've elevated beyond you know what 882 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:26,910 the the BS that we that we throw around 883 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:30,810 down here but in this case it would say 884 00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:34,470 no they're just as flawed just as 885 00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:38,940 violent just as greedy careless for 886 00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:40,030 others 887 00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:41,590 it's pretty messed up right because the 888 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:42,940 thing what happens you know we've got 889 00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:45,490 all the greed and everything that 890 00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:48,550 plagues our species and there's gonna be 891 00:42:54,110 --> 00:42:51,100 private air forces and you know 892 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:54,120 Rothschild space Corps flying out there 893 00:42:59,250 --> 00:42:55,750 what are they looking for they're 894 00:43:02,310 --> 00:42:59,260 looking for a gold you know so it's not 895 00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:02,320 so far-fetched to think that you know 896 00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:04,390 like in Avatar or whatever basically I 897 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:06,550 mean it's the sickness of the world we 898 00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,730 live in and kind of always it's if it's 899 00:43:12,270 --> 00:43:11,200 been like this if we were created for 900 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,280 this in the first place 901 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:14,800 what's that same and I get it you know I 902 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:17,410 I think God is love man you know 903 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:20,650 honestly the true God true metaphysical 904 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:21,490 God is love 905 00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:23,650 you're here to do the best you can and 906 00:43:28,980 --> 00:43:25,780 do the most amount of good every day 907 00:43:31,860 --> 00:43:28,990 right and give love every day and do the 908 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:31,870 right thing make the right choice every 909 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:34,510 day right and be and be a good person 910 00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:37,090 that's what it's all about you know but 911 00:43:43,470 --> 00:43:38,980 we're bombarded with like gold and 912 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,480 treasure and responsibility and pay the 913 00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:45,280 rent and my rents fifteen hundred bucks 914 00:43:54,570 --> 00:43:46,660 but I only make two thousand dollars a 915 00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:54,580 month you know you know yeah the problem 916 00:43:59,700 --> 00:43:57,040 of that is how do you spend time on your 917 00:44:01,890 --> 00:43:59,710 spiritual life when you're just trying 918 00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:01,900 to scrape stuff together that's why they 919 00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:03,700 say they want a nation of workers not a 920 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:07,300 nation of thinkers true but I mean I 921 00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:09,700 think the resistance is ongoing and I 922 00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:11,470 don't think that they'll ever never take 923 00:44:16,290 --> 00:44:14,500 us down I think it's been a losing it's 924 00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:16,300 always been up and down it's never been 925 00:44:24,810 --> 00:44:20,550 a permanent conquer or permanent win 926 00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:24,820 it's because the majority is good man I 927 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:27,430 think you know has we go through the 928 00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:29,290 great unveiling and we live we're living 929 00:44:32,310 --> 00:44:30,220 in you know 930 00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:32,320 the revealing now the age of revealing 931 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:35,710 so mmm-hmm and I think Trump is the 932 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,090 light bringer man I think we should all 933 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:39,520 be thankful for this guy I know a lot of 934 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:44,050 people might not get it but I mean it's 935 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:45,970 very dangerous time and 936 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:49,210 the forces of globalism and this whole 937 00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:52,450 concept of the New World Order they're 938 00:44:57,569 --> 00:44:53,980 on there I mean their backs against the 939 00:44:59,339 --> 00:44:57,579 wall they're falling apart globally I've 940 00:45:01,140 --> 00:44:59,349 been blessed to have traveled and been 941 00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:01,150 in too many countries before the 942 00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:04,630 European Union before and to see before 943 00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:06,910 this so it's kind of invasion of what's 944 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:10,000 kind of going on and then tell you 945 00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:13,810 something man it's 2:00 to go to France 946 00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:18,310 and and it's not France or what you what 947 00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:20,950 everyone thinks of it would be like to 948 00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:23,980 be in France or even London it's pretty 949 00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:31,380 surreal what why isn't it like friends 950 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:34,300 because it's not I mean the France you 951 00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:37,810 think of 60s or 70s or any Audrey 952 00:45:43,410 --> 00:45:39,990 Hepburn movie 953 00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:43,420 that's nothing like you know I want to 954 00:45:49,319 --> 00:45:45,550 you know bash anybody or get into any 955 00:45:54,750 --> 00:45:49,329 any negative sentence but I suggest go 956 00:45:57,710 --> 00:45:54,760 there yourself and see okay so let's get 957 00:46:03,120 --> 00:45:57,720 back to the core of the the conversation 958 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:03,130 because this is this is all relative so 959 00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:05,890 what happened to their to their society 960 00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,990 that they they needed to create us 961 00:46:15,059 --> 00:46:12,160 because it seems to me if you were so 962 00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:15,069 advanced why do you need to to create a 963 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:19,839 you know in hybrid species to do your 964 00:46:26,099 --> 00:46:22,089 work I mean we know that we're on the 965 00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,109 cusp of having intelligent and capable 966 00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:28,480 AI robots I mean within a hundred years 967 00:46:32,849 --> 00:46:30,910 well I mean we're gonna people are gonna 968 00:46:35,849 --> 00:46:32,859 have very difficult time finding jobs 969 00:46:38,609 --> 00:46:35,859 it's just a fact yeah maybe 970 00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:38,619 I think they describe a robot force 971 00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:40,510 actually in some of these ancient texts 972 00:46:45,089 --> 00:46:42,790 that would make more sense of course to 973 00:46:46,589 --> 00:46:45,099 have robots cuz that's my first thought 974 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:46,599 is like you know why bother 975 00:46:52,859 --> 00:46:50,530 yeah I think the the the genetic 976 00:46:54,539 --> 00:46:52,869 altering and the 977 00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:54,549 messing with humans may have been just a 978 00:47:03,150 --> 00:46:58,450 side project or something something for 979 00:47:05,309 --> 00:47:03,160 them to do to maybe advance the native 980 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:05,319 species here in hominids and maybe the 981 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,650 Neanderthals toccata to speed up maybe 982 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,960 to give him the gifts of knowledge maybe 983 00:47:13,769 --> 00:47:12,400 they were just bored you know maybe 984 00:47:16,049 --> 00:47:13,779 they're stuck here and they were bored 985 00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,059 and they had the opportunity and the 986 00:47:21,299 --> 00:47:19,119 knowledge to do this and what happened 987 00:47:22,859 --> 00:47:21,309 was see this is the problem because you 988 00:47:26,279 --> 00:47:22,869 know mentions especially in the book you 989 00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:26,289 know it's really incredible to talk 990 00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,140 about the Angels right how the Angels 991 00:47:34,759 --> 00:47:30,880 each angel had a specific job and 992 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:34,769 function and it's similar to like 993 00:47:40,859 --> 00:47:37,410 someone's a chemist's or someone's a 994 00:47:44,489 --> 00:47:40,869 botanist you know and so on everyone has 995 00:47:46,529 --> 00:47:44,499 a job right like if you spent ascend a 996 00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:46,539 space fleet out everyone's gonna have a 997 00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:49,240 certain thing they're good at a certain 998 00:47:57,839 --> 00:47:52,329 position right so it describes these 999 00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:57,849 angels and who are basically assigned to 1000 00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:01,119 teach man and to teach these these 1001 00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:04,140 beings you know what to do and 1002 00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,609 eventually they could kind of get bored 1003 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:08,559 and they kind of see how the Eve's were 1004 00:48:12,539 --> 00:48:11,170 beautiful and they're probably bored and 1005 00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:12,549 horny and they're like well you know 1006 00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:17,470 it's let's see what what happens here 1007 00:48:23,999 --> 00:48:20,680 and and it describes this this sort of 1008 00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:24,009 rebellion right because they were they 1009 00:48:28,019 --> 00:48:26,529 were forbidden to have relations with 1010 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:28,029 with the Eve's 1011 00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:31,450 mm-hm and they didn't listen and what 1012 00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:33,910 happened is these Eve's ended up getting 1013 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:37,119 pregnant but they didn't have regular 1014 00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:39,970 children they actually had Giants and 1015 00:48:46,609 --> 00:48:43,390 these would be the Nephilim these are 1016 00:48:49,799 --> 00:48:46,619 the men of renown right the mighty man 1017 00:48:51,809 --> 00:48:49,809 so the angels rebelled and had sex with 1018 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:51,819 the Eve's that he you started having 1019 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:54,249 Giants but these Giants for 1020 00:48:59,220 --> 00:48:56,650 cannibalistic and they're just a pain in 1021 00:49:01,250 --> 00:48:59,230 the butt to everybody and not really 1022 00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:01,260 good you know not 1023 00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:05,700 good children so left these the gods and 1024 00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:09,599 in a position to be like well now we've 1025 00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:11,220 really got messed up now we really have 1026 00:49:18,260 --> 00:49:16,710 a problem you know a question for you 1027 00:49:21,529 --> 00:49:18,270 and this is one thing that I'd never 1028 00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:21,539 could wrap my head around so why were 1029 00:49:29,329 --> 00:49:25,680 the giant giant why why were they big 1030 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:29,339 and tall what what was the cause does 1031 00:49:33,980 --> 00:49:31,650 that understand the genetic lineage what 1032 00:49:35,299 --> 00:49:33,990 what caused that yeah I mean either I 1033 00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:35,309 don't get that either why would they I 1034 00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:38,160 mean I can understand they'd be you 1035 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:40,440 would have a Giants in a pre-flood world 1036 00:49:44,450 --> 00:49:42,089 or a world that has a different 1037 00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,460 atmosphere and that's why things were 1038 00:49:50,180 --> 00:49:45,839 bigger in certain point in history 1039 00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:50,190 mm-hmm so that makes sense but why would 1040 00:49:56,930 --> 00:49:54,569 the Angels in the YZ bear Giants why 1041 00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,940 would I and I don't get that yes I mean 1042 00:49:59,809 --> 00:49:58,319 I don't understand that it doesn't 1043 00:50:03,529 --> 00:49:59,819 explain that anywhere why they would be 1044 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:03,539 Giants right yeah yeah I don't think 1045 00:50:08,809 --> 00:50:05,490 that there's there's anything that's 1046 00:50:11,180 --> 00:50:08,819 written down at least that we know of or 1047 00:50:15,319 --> 00:50:11,190 was written down that explained that and 1048 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:15,329 it's odd I what it it makes me wonder is 1049 00:50:18,589 --> 00:50:16,770 there some part of the story that's not 1050 00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:18,599 being told for a reason was there 1051 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,510 something left out for a reason it's 1052 00:50:29,539 --> 00:50:26,400 possible or just got lost in translation 1053 00:50:33,319 --> 00:50:29,549 or maybe they think it was that a big a 1054 00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:33,329 deal to even you know well I would say 1055 00:50:38,299 --> 00:50:36,480 so you never know it yeah I mean since 1056 00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:38,309 we're speculating anyway you know I 1057 00:50:43,130 --> 00:50:40,619 could imagine in due time we're gonna be 1058 00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:43,140 able to genetically you know splice in 1059 00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:45,089 manipulate our own children so maybe 1060 00:50:50,269 --> 00:50:47,670 those were the Giants were were the 1061 00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:50,279 children and they were just genetically 1062 00:50:57,380 --> 00:50:53,760 manipulated to be to be giants for some 1063 00:51:00,349 --> 00:50:57,390 reason and and that's how I went down I 1064 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:00,359 don't know just totally guessing it was 1065 00:51:06,290 --> 00:51:02,370 a side effect 1066 00:51:06,970 --> 00:51:06,300 or yeah yeah angels having children you 1067 00:51:10,130 --> 00:51:06,980 know 1068 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:10,140 yeah maybe um well we're just we're 1069 00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:12,510 totally fantasizing that but maybe 1070 00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:13,920 there's some recessive gene or something 1071 00:51:18,350 --> 00:51:16,470 that was that was awoken in the splicing 1072 00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:18,360 action but now I'm gonna sound ignorant 1073 00:51:24,590 --> 00:51:19,950 because I know nothing about genetics 1074 00:51:27,530 --> 00:51:24,600 placing so okay so we're at this point 1075 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:27,540 in the story you know this or the giants 1076 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:29,690 and the Nephilim 1077 00:51:37,970 --> 00:51:35,730 now the the Eve's my sense is they they 1078 00:51:39,550 --> 00:51:37,980 weren't were they going along with this 1079 00:51:42,110 --> 00:51:39,560 were they okay 1080 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:42,120 or do you think they were being you know 1081 00:51:46,730 --> 00:51:44,910 like raped or sexually harassed or you 1082 00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,740 know what what do you think was going on 1083 00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:48,240 there do you think it was a mutual 1084 00:51:54,020 --> 00:51:52,200 interaction I think so cuz they would 1085 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:54,030 have the wow factor right there would be 1086 00:52:03,310 --> 00:51:57,770 the obviously these these angels were 1087 00:52:06,410 --> 00:52:03,320 you know would have power and would be 1088 00:52:09,230 --> 00:52:06,420 you know we would be persuasive 1089 00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:09,240 I can't I wouldn't be able to say for 1090 00:52:13,550 --> 00:52:11,250 sure how many went along with it but I'm 1091 00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:13,560 sure majority would I mean but friend 1092 00:52:17,450 --> 00:52:14,910 that from the writings I mean did you 1093 00:52:19,790 --> 00:52:17,460 get an impression either way in your 1094 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:19,800 research from the writings this seems to 1095 00:52:25,010 --> 00:52:21,690 be there was it didn't know that there 1096 00:52:27,590 --> 00:52:25,020 just seemed to be any sort of non you 1097 00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:27,600 know any fighting about it seemed like 1098 00:52:31,010 --> 00:52:29,040 it was a normal thing it was a 1099 00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:31,020 consensual these are just two different 1100 00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:33,510 kinds of beings similar enough and kind 1101 00:52:39,110 --> 00:52:35,760 of like I guess you know early humans 1102 00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:39,120 and Neanderthals or Denisovans they they 1103 00:52:42,860 --> 00:52:41,400 all exactly yeah it was their mystery 1104 00:52:44,510 --> 00:52:42,870 partner they are trying to figure out 1105 00:52:51,530 --> 00:52:44,520 who the mystery guy was and that whole 1106 00:52:55,340 --> 00:52:51,540 gang bang of and earth all so you know 1107 00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:55,350 how did the Angels come taking all our 1108 00:53:04,510 --> 00:53:00,720 chicks what's up that you know they're 1109 00:53:08,510 --> 00:53:04,520 in earlier societies monogamy was not 1110 00:53:12,329 --> 00:53:08,520 the norm so you know I think that things 1111 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:12,339 were like you said kind of open and 1112 00:53:17,219 --> 00:53:15,130 you know maybe people just didn't care 1113 00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:17,229 there was no stigma with that sort of 1114 00:53:21,630 --> 00:53:20,380 behavior yeah and I mean that and you 1115 00:53:23,969 --> 00:53:21,640 know if you'd read about the story of 1116 00:53:26,609 --> 00:53:23,979 Babylon you know a lot of that you know 1117 00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:26,619 Sodom and Gomorrah that you know that 1118 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:30,400 was commonplace activity and then 1119 00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:32,410 decided to change their culture they 1120 00:53:37,999 --> 00:53:33,460 didn't like what other people were doing 1121 00:53:40,650 --> 00:53:38,009 and therefore it became it became evil 1122 00:53:45,390 --> 00:53:40,660 alright so where I got a couple minutes 1123 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:45,400 left before the next break so in your in 1124 00:53:53,489 --> 00:53:49,930 your research so far what do you think 1125 00:53:59,789 --> 00:53:53,499 is the most obvious piece of evidence 1126 00:54:03,930 --> 00:53:59,799 that shouts the hey this is not a just a 1127 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:03,940 pure spiritual story this is it's so 1128 00:54:10,499 --> 00:54:07,950 obvious that this is a historical story 1129 00:54:11,999 --> 00:54:10,509 well basically after Bigley no kind of 1130 00:54:17,609 --> 00:54:12,009 translated how it was supposed to be 1131 00:54:20,789 --> 00:54:17,619 read to me all the all the references I 1132 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:20,799 cite in the book pretty much convincing 1133 00:54:26,130 --> 00:54:23,650 enough and concrete enough for me to 1134 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:26,140 kind of believe I mean Ezekiel's talking 1135 00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:29,170 about some sort of spaceship or 1136 00:54:34,589 --> 00:54:32,049 helicopter possibly drones coming out I 1137 00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,599 mean there he's describing something you 1138 00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:36,880 know this ain't a dream it's not a 1139 00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:40,150 vision they don't have the vocabulary to 1140 00:54:47,339 --> 00:54:44,319 describe technology technological events 1141 00:54:49,979 --> 00:54:47,349 they're seen so I think I mean the story 1142 00:54:52,499 --> 00:54:49,989 of Moses is incredible - I mean what's 1143 00:54:55,229 --> 00:54:52,509 up with the you know at night is stuff 1144 00:54:57,209 --> 00:54:55,239 it's the pillar of what's the pillar of 1145 00:55:00,450 --> 00:54:57,219 smoke in a daytime then a night it's 1146 00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:00,460 like the pillar of fire yeah yeah you 1147 00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:04,960 know and I think there's a bunch I think 1148 00:55:09,690 --> 00:55:08,020 there's a lot there you know Elijah 1149 00:55:11,790 --> 00:55:09,700 you know another one of the prophets 1150 00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:11,800 well you know I'm gonna take a quick 1151 00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:13,960 break and well actually get back - yeah 1152 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:16,420 - what let's discuss what the Prophet 1153 00:55:20,310 --> 00:55:18,010 SAW is I think that's one of the most 1154 00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:20,320 fascinating aspects of this book you 1155 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:22,150 spend a lot of time on that this is Alan 1156 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:24,310 B Smith hosting for paranormal now on 1157 00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:26,530 the inception radio network and my guest 1158 00:55:30,690 --> 00:55:28,390 is zvn Hayes we're talking ancient 1159 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:30,700 aliens in the Bible and so far it's been 1160 00:55:36,130 --> 00:55:32,650 a great conversation so hang in there 1161 00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:41,040 [Music] 1162 00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:43,420 and welcome back to paranormal now this 1163 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:45,350 is Allen Smith your host on the 1164 00:55:49,570 --> 00:55:46,970 inception radio network my guest is 1165 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:49,580 avian haze author of ancient aliens in 1166 00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:52,130 the Bible evidence of UFOs Nephilim and 1167 00:55:57,730 --> 00:55:54,710 the true face of angels and ancient 1168 00:56:03,300 --> 00:55:57,740 scriptures zaevion where can people find 1169 00:56:12,430 --> 00:56:09,240 they can find me on Facebook only place 1170 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:12,440 then I seem to exist and the book Amazon 1171 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:14,330 is always the best place to order the 1172 00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:17,330 book and get the best deals but I guess 1173 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:19,190 it's in Barnes & Noble or wherever they 1174 00:56:25,830 --> 00:56:22,130 sell books nowadays mm-hmm cool and how 1175 00:56:35,290 --> 00:56:31,150 think um that's available I'm at least 1176 00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:35,300 10 I guess have you write 10 books how 1177 00:56:40,030 --> 00:56:38,480 do you ever thumb for that full I'm 1178 00:56:43,450 --> 00:56:40,040 conditioned to do it now I could kind of 1179 00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:43,460 crank that out in a month but uh a lot 1180 00:56:46,810 --> 00:56:45,380 of years of practice a lot of years of 1181 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:46,820 writing or writing write non-stop 1182 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:48,170 writing and then you get to a point 1183 00:56:53,770 --> 00:56:51,530 where it's second nature and yeah I'm a 1184 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:53,780 writer so like if I'm not writing I I 1185 00:57:00,040 --> 00:56:57,410 just can't function anyway but I'm at 1186 00:57:02,530 --> 00:57:00,050 the point now where that you know I've 1187 00:57:05,740 --> 00:57:02,540 done my nonfiction work you know there's 1188 00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:05,750 a bunch there and I want to kind of get 1189 00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:08,960 into want to get some novels done you 1190 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:11,630 know and I got some television and film 1191 00:57:16,930 --> 00:57:15,290 stuff that about time it gets made you 1192 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:16,940 know because that's how other beasts 1193 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:19,010 right there but what are you in 1194 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:23,330 producing your own documentary er I have 1195 00:57:31,110 --> 00:57:26,450 actually I have some like some feature 1196 00:57:34,060 --> 00:57:31,120 film stuff television okay yeah I have 1197 00:57:43,780 --> 00:57:34,070 television shows feature film mm-hmm 1198 00:57:45,460 --> 00:57:43,790 but the key to that is the money cuz 1199 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:45,470 you've eliminated any type of middleman 1200 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:46,160 or whatever 1201 00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:47,930 I mean before you kind of would you 1202 00:57:55,090 --> 00:57:49,790 might get lucky and write something and 1203 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:55,100 get that sold you have to finance the 1204 00:57:58,650 --> 00:57:57,170 whole thing yourself and then give it to 1205 00:58:01,000 --> 00:57:58,660 them and hope you get distribution 1206 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:01,010 exactly you still have to go through the 1207 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:03,410 man to get there though you got to get 1208 00:58:08,860 --> 00:58:06,890 distribution anyways but the point is 1209 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:08,870 the man's not gonna distribute anything 1210 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:11,210 if yes been any money like you don't you 1211 00:58:15,820 --> 00:58:13,130 don't care he wants to see completed 1212 00:58:19,150 --> 00:58:15,830 projects ready to go you know and uh 1213 00:58:20,620 --> 00:58:19,160 it's better that way anyways honestly at 1214 00:58:23,170 --> 00:58:20,630 least you control some aspect of what 1215 00:58:25,150 --> 00:58:23,180 you're doing but it costs money it's 1216 00:58:26,650 --> 00:58:25,160 expensive you know it's really expensive 1217 00:58:32,410 --> 00:58:26,660 I wanted to the arrow flip movie with 1218 00:58:34,750 --> 00:58:32,420 Orlando Bloom you know it's 30 million 1219 00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:34,760 maybe forty fifty I mean you want 40 1220 00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:36,260 million in escrow before you even holler 1221 00:58:40,450 --> 00:58:39,110 at anybody right we're gonna come up 1222 00:58:42,850 --> 00:58:40,460 with forty million dollars you know and 1223 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:42,860 even to get two million dollars to do an 1224 00:58:47,590 --> 00:58:45,770 independent film there's a lot of money 1225 00:58:48,790 --> 00:58:47,600 to come up with and then how you gonna 1226 00:58:53,170 --> 00:58:48,800 make any money you know you do a 1227 00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:53,180 documentary you know unless you're doing 1228 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:54,710 a television some sort of television 1229 00:59:00,550 --> 00:58:57,490 series it's very hard to get a 1230 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:00,560 documentary the point where you and 1231 00:59:05,050 --> 00:59:03,290 where it makes any money to get your 1232 00:59:07,540 --> 00:59:05,060 money back you might be able to get it 1233 00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:07,550 shown and seen which is good cuz that's 1234 00:59:12,550 --> 00:59:09,830 gonna help you with the next one but you 1235 00:59:16,660 --> 00:59:12,560 know to actually make a return it's very 1236 00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:16,670 difficult with anything actually so but 1237 00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:18,110 the point is you do it because you love 1238 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:20,270 it and it's something just you you you 1239 00:59:24,130 --> 00:59:22,130 feel passionate about and you believe in 1240 00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,140 it and it's not about the money in that 1241 00:59:28,090 --> 00:59:26,720 regards you can't like I all the books I 1242 00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:28,100 write I don't do it because I'm trying 1243 00:59:31,540 --> 00:59:29,510 to get paid you know I don't know I 1244 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:31,550 don't care you know I do it cuz I love 1245 00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:33,530 it and it's my responsibility to have 1246 00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:34,910 this knowledge I have to get it give it 1247 00:59:40,930 --> 00:59:38,000 back and and I'm capable of writing in 1248 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:40,940 doing it you know my books they have to 1249 00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:43,370 be entertaining I wanted to be a fast 1250 00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:46,760 read and entertaining and you know in 1251 00:59:50,830 --> 00:59:48,350 facts you know I never try to put my 1252 00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:50,840 opinion in them I try to just make it 1253 00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:53,600 entertaining and put the facts and 1254 00:59:57,070 --> 00:59:55,310 your own conclusion I don't know I would 1255 00:59:59,020 --> 00:59:57,080 argue a little bit on that one 1256 01:00:01,630 --> 00:59:59,030 I think ancient aliens you definitely 1257 01:00:04,660 --> 01:00:01,640 have in a formed informed opinion don't 1258 01:00:07,210 --> 01:00:04,670 you think this one for sure definitely 1259 01:00:09,490 --> 01:00:07,220 is a hat there has to be and there's a 1260 01:00:11,050 --> 01:00:09,500 little there's a little fiery jade in 1261 01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:11,060 this I'm sure that kind of comes across 1262 01:00:18,190 --> 01:00:13,240 in a few chapters and you know 1263 01:00:19,540 --> 01:00:18,200 definitely does yep uh-huh yeah but I 1264 01:00:22,090 --> 01:00:19,550 mean it's not you know you're not 1265 01:00:23,980 --> 01:00:22,100 offensive I don't find that in that in 1266 01:00:26,020 --> 01:00:23,990 that sense at all thank you and actually 1267 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:26,030 this it is kind of refreshing to hear 1268 01:00:31,660 --> 01:00:29,570 someone just speak how they feel you 1269 01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:31,670 know cuz that look there's there's a ton 1270 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:35,600 of work on these subjects that are where 1271 01:00:39,790 --> 01:00:38,210 people are trying to be as academic not 1272 01:00:41,980 --> 01:00:39,800 that yours you know isn't well 1273 01:00:49,090 --> 01:00:41,990 researched but they're trying so hard to 1274 01:00:52,210 --> 01:00:49,100 come across as dry and academic exactly 1275 01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:52,220 yeah and and I thought yours was you 1276 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:55,070 know a refreshing change it you know 1277 01:00:59,770 --> 01:00:57,770 wasn't you know and this is not I'm not 1278 01:01:02,410 --> 01:00:59,780 knocking the the writing at all but it 1279 01:01:04,090 --> 01:01:02,420 wasn't it was somewhat of an easier read 1280 01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:04,100 it float I could I could get through it 1281 01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:05,510 I can get the concepts I understood your 1282 01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,480 points very clearly and you know there 1283 01:01:12,310 --> 01:01:10,160 weren't five hundred asterisks or four 1284 01:01:18,790 --> 01:01:12,320 references that I had to refer to thank 1285 01:01:21,610 --> 01:01:18,800 you make it fast 1286 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:21,620 that's why I had to strip down a lot I 1287 01:01:26,350 --> 01:01:24,170 didn't use that like the Hebrew words 1288 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:26,360 and the tablets and you know if I felt 1289 01:01:30,610 --> 01:01:28,010 it'd be a distraction and it's too much 1290 01:01:31,810 --> 01:01:30,620 you know it's too much more I think if I 1291 01:01:34,540 --> 01:01:31,820 could kind of strip it down to some of 1292 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:34,550 the basic keywords and explain those I 1293 01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:37,970 think work better right well and and 1294 01:01:42,310 --> 01:01:39,680 that's not to say I think that the 1295 01:01:45,310 --> 01:01:42,320 academic books for people are are trying 1296 01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:45,320 to you know fill the pages with as much 1297 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:47,150 reference as possible I think those are 1298 01:01:49,570 --> 01:01:48,050 important too 1299 01:01:52,980 --> 01:01:49,580 I just think that then we need to have 1300 01:01:55,330 --> 01:01:52,990 both and you know which one shouldn't be 1301 01:01:58,660 --> 01:01:55,340 thought of as being at a higher level 1302 01:01:59,860 --> 01:01:58,670 than the other you know the author being 1303 01:02:01,810 --> 01:01:59,870 at higher level than the other just 1304 01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:01,820 because the writing styles and approach 1305 01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:04,640 is different but I mean yeah you you use 1306 01:02:09,009 --> 01:02:06,799 language that is almost languish 1307 01:02:11,319 --> 01:02:09,019 I wish I hadn't made some notes of some 1308 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:11,329 of the words that you use but it was it 1309 01:02:14,529 --> 01:02:13,130 felt it felt conversational I felt like 1310 01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:14,539 I was sitting down with you and you were 1311 01:02:19,269 --> 01:02:17,900 sharing a story with me thank you and 1312 01:02:22,959 --> 01:02:19,279 that's and if you check out my other 1313 01:02:25,809 --> 01:02:22,969 books you know you'll see other styles 1314 01:02:29,049 --> 01:02:25,819 basically kind of the same in the aspect 1315 01:02:30,729 --> 01:02:29,059 where I it's entertaining I want people 1316 01:02:33,419 --> 01:02:30,739 to read it I want people to be to be 1317 01:02:37,269 --> 01:02:33,429 able to read it and get through it and 1318 01:02:40,059 --> 01:02:37,279 not not be bombarded with such new 1319 01:02:42,999 --> 01:02:40,069 concepts and new words and big fancy 1320 01:02:47,169 --> 01:02:43,009 words I have to get a Thea source you 1321 01:02:48,759 --> 01:02:47,179 know yeah I'm definitely a writer and 1322 01:02:51,759 --> 01:02:48,769 definitely snobbish and that's why I 1323 01:02:53,169 --> 01:02:51,769 kind of want to get into fiction more 1324 01:02:55,839 --> 01:02:53,179 right you know there's more freedom 1325 01:02:59,499 --> 01:02:55,849 there getting stuck in the the 1326 01:03:03,189 --> 01:02:59,509 nonfiction barrio for for a decade was I 1327 01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:03,199 was it's kind of tough you know because 1328 01:03:09,459 --> 01:03:05,599 there's so much work involved other than 1329 01:03:11,799 --> 01:03:09,469 writing the research the reading being 1330 01:03:13,449 --> 01:03:11,809 able to source being able to you know 1331 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:13,459 you read a bunch of crap and then you 1332 01:03:18,429 --> 01:03:15,650 got like maybe one sense out of whatever 1333 01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:18,439 you just read if that right I mean it's 1334 01:03:24,609 --> 01:03:21,729 a whole other whole other style you know 1335 01:03:26,589 --> 01:03:24,619 but I think you know it's important 1336 01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:26,599 nowadays that people read in and in 1337 01:03:33,539 --> 01:03:29,359 reading it seems to be like a lost art 1338 01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:33,549 you know which bothers me because 1339 01:03:40,299 --> 01:03:37,039 actually reading a novel or any type of 1340 01:03:42,130 --> 01:03:40,309 book is personal between you and that 1341 01:03:43,689 --> 01:03:42,140 what you're reading you know it creates 1342 01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:43,699 your own little thing in your own head 1343 01:03:49,959 --> 01:03:46,249 so that's that that that's only yours 1344 01:03:51,969 --> 01:03:49,969 like so and it's ancient thing and we 1345 01:03:54,579 --> 01:03:51,979 should all be thankful that we can read 1346 01:03:55,929 --> 01:03:54,589 and have the ability to actually have 1347 01:03:58,289 --> 01:03:55,939 books especially in an era when they're 1348 01:04:00,339 --> 01:03:58,299 censoring trying to censor everything 1349 01:04:01,929 --> 01:04:00,349 right I don't know if you're familiar 1350 01:04:06,099 --> 01:04:01,939 this but um have you ever heard of the 1351 01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:06,109 Black Knight satellite yeah I don't know 1352 01:04:11,199 --> 01:04:07,609 what to make of that because that's 1353 01:04:13,179 --> 01:04:11,209 definitely a mystery well but for the 1354 01:04:15,470 --> 01:04:13,189 for the break I played satellite by Dave 1355 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:15,480 Matthews and and 1356 01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:17,250 and then it hit me I was like let me ask 1357 01:04:23,090 --> 01:04:21,630 him about about that you know I don't I 1358 01:04:25,070 --> 01:04:23,100 don't have I've seen very good evidence 1359 01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:25,080 for it to me just seems like a legend at 1360 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:28,790 this point yeah so I kind of think maybe 1361 01:04:35,150 --> 01:04:33,450 junk I guess Tesla kind of supposedly 1362 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:35,160 identified it but you know I don't think 1363 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:37,170 so actually 1364 01:04:46,490 --> 01:04:40,650 unified yeah because what I mean Tesla 1365 01:04:49,390 --> 01:04:46,500 he what he was expressing it was like he 1366 01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:49,400 wasn't in touch with different entities 1367 01:04:55,610 --> 01:04:53,160 or some intelligent source I don't think 1368 01:04:57,830 --> 01:04:55,620 that that he was saying he was literally 1369 01:04:59,540 --> 01:04:57,840 downloading information from a not that 1370 01:05:02,330 --> 01:04:59,550 he had that that word that phrase but 1371 01:05:03,470 --> 01:05:02,340 from a object that's rotating around the 1372 01:05:06,020 --> 01:05:03,480 earth and that's where he got all his 1373 01:05:10,550 --> 01:05:06,030 information I think it was much more 1374 01:05:11,570 --> 01:05:10,560 metaphysical than that exactly yep right 1375 01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:11,580 okay so let's get down to the 1376 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:14,150 nitty-gritty 1377 01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:19,890 you know literal evidence the literary 1378 01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:23,520 evidence so what what are the the 1379 01:05:28,370 --> 01:05:24,960 prophets that stand out to you most I 1380 01:05:30,910 --> 01:05:28,380 know Elijah Enoch Enoch is egg is one of 1381 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:30,920 the most fascinating characters I think 1382 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:38,130 unfortunately the the the the four 1383 01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:41,250 Gospels and our than in the New 1384 01:05:46,670 --> 01:05:43,710 Testament don't really refer to him very 1385 01:05:51,140 --> 01:05:46,680 much and then he was cut out of the Old 1386 01:05:55,940 --> 01:05:51,150 Testament for the most part so what 1387 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:55,950 stories of these amazing prophets do you 1388 01:06:02,180 --> 01:05:57,890 think were the most fascinating that 1389 01:06:07,380 --> 01:06:02,190 made the connection between the Sumerian 1390 01:06:13,870 --> 01:06:11,259 want me to knock you know he's mentioned 1391 01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:13,880 a few times in the Bible before you know 1392 01:06:17,410 --> 01:06:15,529 this kind of forget all about him and 1393 01:06:22,299 --> 01:06:17,420 they made his books almost illegal to 1394 01:06:25,450 --> 01:06:22,309 read yeah he's definitely most important 1395 01:06:27,999 --> 01:06:25,460 because he describes you know he had he 1396 01:06:31,660 --> 01:06:28,009 was given a tour of space and he's 1397 01:06:35,769 --> 01:06:31,670 actually describing you know how their 1398 01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:35,779 change is higher he gets right so he's 1399 01:06:45,279 --> 01:06:39,710 very fascinating character III like the 1400 01:06:47,410 --> 01:06:45,289 whole the whole love mech I'm not sure 1401 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:47,420 if Lamech will qualify as a prophet but 1402 01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:50,450 he definitely was someone who had an 1403 01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:53,839 interesting experience and he believed 1404 01:06:59,859 --> 01:06:55,609 he his great-grandfather or his 1405 01:07:03,970 --> 01:06:59,869 grandfather was you know I think so so 1406 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:03,980 Lamech basically you know he found out 1407 01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:06,170 the hard way that his wife was kind of 1408 01:07:14,019 --> 01:07:08,230 getting freaky with one of the angels 1409 01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:14,029 and then when they had a son it was 1410 01:07:21,579 --> 01:07:18,710 glowing eyes right it's mmm he noted how 1411 01:07:23,410 --> 01:07:21,589 it didn't look like him he was 1412 01:07:29,549 --> 01:07:23,420 suspicious that I might be a son of an 1413 01:07:32,229 --> 01:07:29,559 angel and I'm an angel 1414 01:07:35,140 --> 01:07:32,239 yeah exactly and he had to go all the 1415 01:07:37,870 --> 01:07:35,150 way you know to wherever he's a 1416 01:07:42,579 --> 01:07:37,880 grandfather Enoch was to say hey what's 1417 01:07:46,089 --> 01:07:42,589 going on with this right so I that point 1418 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:46,099 and he was supposed to have been taken 1419 01:07:51,069 --> 01:07:47,690 away on a spaceship right or is that 1420 01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:51,079 Elijah well you have been taken away but 1421 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:52,880 he had to come back and he was living 1422 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:55,130 with the gods right so he had to go and 1423 01:08:01,660 --> 01:07:56,690 find signed him living with the gods 1424 01:08:03,789 --> 01:08:01,670 right right yeah so how cool is that you 1425 01:08:06,970 --> 01:08:03,799 know and you have as I say we have 1426 01:08:09,489 --> 01:08:06,980 Elijah mm-hmm you know thing about 1427 01:08:12,430 --> 01:08:09,499 Elijah was interesting because you know 1428 01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:12,440 he goes up because all these encounters 1429 01:08:18,910 --> 01:08:15,860 usually happen on top of a mountain 1430 01:08:20,290 --> 01:08:18,920 right I guess you know the spaceship 1431 01:08:23,010 --> 01:08:20,300 because it's always rumbling in 1432 01:08:25,090 --> 01:08:23,020 earthquakes you know the big noise 1433 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:25,100 attributed to these you know the gods 1434 01:08:32,890 --> 01:08:28,010 you know yeah it's these heavenly 1435 01:08:36,220 --> 01:08:32,900 chariots right so elijah goes up and he 1436 01:08:38,980 --> 01:08:36,230 kind of disappears but his followers 1437 01:08:41,740 --> 01:08:38,990 were worried about him right cuz you 1438 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:41,750 know they thought he I got blown off the 1439 01:08:46,450 --> 01:08:43,730 mount off the top of the mountain by one 1440 01:08:48,990 --> 01:08:46,460 of the world winds one of the the great 1441 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:49,000 whirlwinds of the Chariots of the Gods 1442 01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:51,890 blew him off the mountain so they spent 1443 01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:53,510 like three days in the valley looking 1444 01:08:59,500 --> 01:08:56,510 for him it's pretty interesting because 1445 01:09:01,390 --> 01:08:59,510 if this was just a vision they're not 1446 01:09:02,980 --> 01:09:01,400 gonna be walking around the hot desert 1447 01:09:05,290 --> 01:09:02,990 for three days looking for their friend 1448 01:09:08,170 --> 01:09:05,300 well you know I think what I like what 1449 01:09:09,849 --> 01:09:08,180 you did in the book too is um you tried 1450 01:09:13,060 --> 01:09:09,859 you know I think you tried to explain 1451 01:09:14,890 --> 01:09:13,070 that in a way that was much more 1452 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:14,900 advanced technology than rocket 1453 01:09:18,099 --> 01:09:16,730 technology because so many times I've 1454 01:09:20,250 --> 01:09:18,109 heard the ancient alien theory and that 1455 01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:20,260 they're talking about you know 1456 01:09:24,310 --> 01:09:22,640 equivalent to modern-day rockets and it 1457 01:09:27,670 --> 01:09:24,320 doesn't seem to ever make sense to me 1458 01:09:31,540 --> 01:09:27,680 that I species this advanced would use 1459 01:09:34,780 --> 01:09:31,550 rocket ships to to you know land and 1460 01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:34,790 take off it's just I don't know it just 1461 01:09:38,710 --> 01:09:36,400 seems like that's where we are now 1462 01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:38,720 that's not where we're gonna be in a 1463 01:09:44,910 --> 01:09:41,120 hundred years plus from now so why would 1464 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:44,920 these ultra progressive you know species 1465 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:48,130 use old technology doesn't make sense 1466 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:51,530 yeah I never got the whole trying to 1467 01:09:59,440 --> 01:09:55,090 project the rocket into ancient history 1468 01:10:00,850 --> 01:09:59,450 I think even even Sitchin kind of found 1469 01:10:03,370 --> 01:10:00,860 a relief where you try to say that it 1470 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:03,380 was like some rocky roads this seemed to 1471 01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,170 make sense I mean think about what what 1472 01:10:09,790 --> 01:10:08,000 have we done with the rock and now like 1473 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:09,800 the Rockets pretty much useless can't it 1474 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:12,290 what's the dude I mean really I mean 1475 01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:14,570 kind of goes up go straight up a little 1476 01:10:20,050 --> 01:10:17,240 bit you know get some stuff to a space 1477 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:20,060 station it's utterly useless and they 1478 01:10:24,830 --> 01:10:22,770 know that they know that 1479 01:10:27,170 --> 01:10:24,840 no matter how advanced the rocket is 1480 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:27,180 it's it's you know okay look at the new 1481 01:10:30,860 --> 01:10:29,010 stuff we're seeing about the fake moon 1482 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:30,870 landing right and they're like well if 1483 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:33,210 if if they land on the moon where's that 1484 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:34,530 where's where's the evidence of the 1485 01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:37,170 rocket coming down right of the the 1486 01:10:41,870 --> 01:10:39,780 propulsion from the lander would just 1487 01:10:44,090 --> 01:10:41,880 blow away everything it would be if it's 1488 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:44,100 a massive ordeal to liftoff it's gonna 1489 01:10:51,260 --> 01:10:47,250 be the same thing coming down any final 1490 01:10:55,970 --> 01:10:51,270 evidence of this right and get close you 1491 01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:55,980 can't get close to that either boses 1492 01:11:01,190 --> 01:10:58,770 right he was warned he goes up and you 1493 01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:01,200 know he has to go into cleft of the rock 1494 01:11:05,780 --> 01:11:03,300 and kind of shield himself from whatever 1495 01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:05,790 was flying over mm-hmm you know and then 1496 01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:07,590 then he goes up hangs out with them for 1497 01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:09,390 40 days and he comes back and his face 1498 01:11:14,750 --> 01:11:12,480 is all messed up he has to wear a veil 1499 01:11:17,150 --> 01:11:14,760 right what is up with that well you know 1500 01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:17,160 I when I read that and the way that you 1501 01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:19,070 explained it it sound to me more like 1502 01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,230 radiation exposure rather than us or 1503 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:23,760 some some kind of radiation exposure 1504 01:11:28,580 --> 01:11:26,970 rather than you know just a a flame or 1505 01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:28,590 heat source as such because if it really 1506 01:11:35,150 --> 01:11:30,630 was a rocket I mean he'd just be singed 1507 01:11:38,270 --> 01:11:35,160 and burnt alive I'm saying definitely 1508 01:11:39,980 --> 01:11:38,280 some sort of radiation I mean what is 1509 01:11:43,460 --> 01:11:39,990 that like how come no one's been like 1510 01:11:46,270 --> 01:11:43,470 wait a minute they don't make sense and 1511 01:11:48,980 --> 01:11:46,280 then you know you have Moses which is 1512 01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:48,990 another Egyptian kind of character and 1513 01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:50,880 the Egyptian story by way and then you 1514 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:53,820 find that also in Sumeria you know but 1515 01:12:00,110 --> 01:11:57,090 but you know but you're taught to 1516 01:12:02,510 --> 01:12:00,120 believe that you know Moses was magic 1517 01:12:05,390 --> 01:12:02,520 was good because it was from God you 1518 01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,400 know he had the real he had the real 1519 01:12:10,370 --> 01:12:07,440 magic you know the Pharaohs magic was 1520 01:12:12,170 --> 01:12:10,380 wicked you know right as if they're 1521 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:12,180 battling Chris angels or something you 1522 01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:16,650 know what's going on right yeah and also 1523 01:12:26,540 --> 01:12:20,490 he it's described of him speaking 1524 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:26,550 directly face-to-face with God in the in 1525 01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:30,690 a form and in other parts by the look 1526 01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:33,300 right it tells us that we can't handle 1527 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:34,880 the voice of God that would it would 1528 01:12:38,979 --> 01:12:37,730 essentially destroying so hey right it's 1529 01:12:41,229 --> 01:12:38,989 kind of contradictory so what was 1530 01:12:42,729 --> 01:12:41,239 actually going on there yeah that's what 1531 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:42,739 I'm saying like why why do you have to 1532 01:12:47,740 --> 01:12:45,050 build a certain Tabernacle a certain you 1533 01:12:50,229 --> 01:12:47,750 had to build a certain little area away 1534 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:50,239 from the people to communicate with with 1535 01:12:56,350 --> 01:12:52,489 the God who came down and in this 1536 01:12:58,030 --> 01:12:56,360 cylinder form or whatever it right so 1537 01:13:00,280 --> 01:12:58,040 what's up with that when you know other 1538 01:13:04,780 --> 01:13:00,290 parts talk about you could never see my 1539 01:13:06,669 --> 01:13:04,790 face you know there's the contradictory 1540 01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:06,679 because who knows what was added later 1541 01:13:12,820 --> 01:13:09,679 to make you afraid as opposed to what 1542 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:12,830 what parts are actually historical parks 1543 01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:15,050 that were misinterpreted or changed to 1544 01:13:19,890 --> 01:13:18,320 make you think that it was more fantasy 1545 01:13:24,129 --> 01:13:19,900 like instead of actual concrete 1546 01:13:28,419 --> 01:13:24,139 encounter yes I do you think it actually 1547 01:13:30,010 --> 01:13:28,429 serves the the church that that isn't 1548 01:13:32,729 --> 01:13:30,020 blurred the line between reality and 1549 01:13:35,649 --> 01:13:32,739 fantasy well that's why the whole 1550 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:35,659 council Nicaea took all the books that 1551 01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:38,330 were too overly hard to explain with 1552 01:13:42,459 --> 01:13:41,030 ancient alien stuff right right okay you 1553 01:13:43,959 --> 01:13:42,469 know and all these things they took that 1554 01:13:46,090 --> 01:13:43,969 out and then they kind of changed the 1555 01:13:48,850 --> 01:13:46,100 language to make everything more fantasy 1556 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:48,860 and more ethereal right 1557 01:13:52,570 --> 01:13:50,810 they couldn't have predicted that we'd 1558 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:52,580 actually be in an age where we have 1559 01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:55,010 technology we have things flying around 1560 01:13:59,979 --> 01:13:56,480 and we have stripe toothpaste and 1561 01:14:06,550 --> 01:13:59,989 smartphones okay I like my strobe to 1562 01:14:09,970 --> 01:14:06,560 this ya know I hope anything fluoride in 1563 01:14:12,340 --> 01:14:09,980 it you should avoid you know get you 1564 01:14:15,070 --> 01:14:12,350 know Tom's a man or whatever make sure 1565 01:14:17,169 --> 01:14:15,080 there's it's children's you know non 1566 01:14:19,540 --> 01:14:17,179 fluoride toothpaste strawberry it's it's 1567 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:19,550 very good actually it's way better it's 1568 01:14:24,910 --> 01:14:23,690 amazing the whole fluoride conspiracy is 1569 01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:24,920 incredible I don't know if you're up on 1570 01:14:29,939 --> 01:14:26,239 that but that's a whole other one you 1571 01:14:32,699 --> 01:14:29,949 can kind of look into ya know and I am 1572 01:14:37,549 --> 01:14:32,709 but 1573 01:14:40,319 --> 01:14:37,559 okay so I just want to clarify do you 1574 01:14:45,089 --> 01:14:40,329 think then that whoever Moses was 1575 01:14:49,850 --> 01:14:45,099 speaking to was a single something or 1576 01:14:53,429 --> 01:14:49,860 someone that was ahead of all of these 1577 01:14:57,959 --> 01:14:53,439 races or the whole Nephilim or what 1578 01:15:01,529 --> 01:14:57,969 whatever that you know the group was or 1579 01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:01,539 or when when he was speaking was he 1580 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:04,239 speaking to different people was it you 1581 01:15:10,259 --> 01:15:07,650 know the - I mean these are Brett 1582 01:15:13,310 --> 01:15:10,269 different representatives of the of the 1583 01:15:16,890 --> 01:15:13,320 Nephilim or what have you 1584 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:16,900 - this is way after right so we don't 1585 01:15:23,689 --> 01:15:21,130 know what what forces remained in what 1586 01:15:26,969 --> 01:15:23,699 aspect I mean obviously whatever 1587 01:15:29,719 --> 01:15:26,979 whatever force remained has something in 1588 01:15:32,549 --> 01:15:29,729 Jewish Jerusalem and was very keen on 1589 01:15:35,370 --> 01:15:32,559 having power in that area in that 1590 01:15:38,399 --> 01:15:35,380 specific point of land in that time in 1591 01:15:42,089 --> 01:15:38,409 history right for some reason whatever I 1592 01:15:45,109 --> 01:15:42,099 mean it's just how it is but who's to 1593 01:15:48,299 --> 01:15:45,119 say that it was a team where it was one 1594 01:15:50,699 --> 01:15:48,309 maybe a certain crew that was kind of 1595 01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:50,709 just had that still had a technology but 1596 01:15:59,609 --> 01:15:53,590 hmm maybe was ostracize or maybe was not 1597 01:16:01,199 --> 01:15:59,619 part of other another form of their 1598 01:16:04,199 --> 01:16:01,209 prior team who know so maybe it was a 1599 01:16:07,609 --> 01:16:04,209 different type of alien altogether you 1600 01:16:12,029 --> 01:16:07,619 know maybe it was different because you 1601 01:16:13,799 --> 01:16:12,039 know there's more than one I'm sure yeah 1602 01:16:15,299 --> 01:16:13,809 and that's what I wonder because and you 1603 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:15,309 made you made the point perfectly it was 1604 01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:19,570 post flood it was post then the initial 1605 01:16:26,879 --> 01:16:21,840 warring you know between the factions 1606 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:26,889 Enki and Enlil so then what was left 1607 01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:28,570 exactly that's that's the question what 1608 01:16:38,129 --> 01:16:33,760 was left after that that's the question 1609 01:16:40,739 --> 01:16:38,139 we can't I mean for me we don't know I 1610 01:16:43,799 --> 01:16:40,749 mean I can't say you know I don't know I 1611 01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:43,809 wasn't there you know I would love to be 1612 01:16:47,460 --> 01:16:45,520 able to time travel and decel 1613 01:16:52,050 --> 01:16:47,470 look and see what what hell was going on 1614 01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:52,060 back then right you know it could be 1615 01:16:56,970 --> 01:16:54,310 something as simple as future time 1616 01:17:00,060 --> 01:16:56,980 travelers who knows I don't know you 1617 01:17:04,350 --> 01:17:00,070 have you have a space for for an actual 1618 01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,360 God in all this personally 1619 01:17:12,140 --> 01:17:06,400 wasn't it within the story is there is 1620 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:14,280 it wouldn't be involved in any of this 1621 01:17:22,670 --> 01:17:16,330 because he's not gonna he's not gonna 1622 01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:22,680 care about you know the leading Moses to 1623 01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:25,030 its metaphysical it doesn't build things 1624 01:17:29,550 --> 01:17:27,520 not it's not even bound by those those 1625 01:17:31,170 --> 01:17:29,560 laws right I mean that's nothing to do 1626 01:17:33,420 --> 01:17:31,180 well whatever they're talking about 1627 01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:33,430 whatever it Moses was dealing with 1628 01:17:37,140 --> 01:17:34,990 whatever these prophets were dealing 1629 01:17:39,420 --> 01:17:37,150 with you know these are physical 1630 01:17:41,370 --> 01:17:39,430 characters these are and then these 1631 01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:41,380 weren't gods you know they might have 1632 01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:45,520 godlike abilities and you know highly 1633 01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:47,320 advanced I would I would assume but 1634 01:17:53,780 --> 01:17:50,560 these are physical encounters that far 1635 01:17:57,380 --> 01:17:53,790 removed from the actual you know what 1636 01:17:59,730 --> 01:17:57,390 the the metaphysical principles and 1637 01:18:01,290 --> 01:17:59,740 metaphysical like the laws of the 1638 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:01,300 universal laws man you could call 1639 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:02,410 whatever you want you could give any 1640 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:04,690 name you want to it they're all bound by 1641 01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,770 certain things karma in certain rules 1642 01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:10,960 that are just always going to exist 1643 01:18:21,530 --> 01:18:14,880 right you know so I don't I'm not sure 1644 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:21,540 why there was such a emphasis on Israel 1645 01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:25,330 and I could see how you know over time 1646 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:27,550 the Hebrews you know would would want to 1647 01:18:32,580 --> 01:18:30,730 change it literally if you're gonna be 1648 01:18:34,170 --> 01:18:32,590 around because hit like we know this 1649 01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:34,180 right history is written by the winners 1650 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:37,510 you know so so if they've been winning 1651 01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:39,730 since that time they're gonna kind of 1652 01:18:43,890 --> 01:18:41,980 change a lot and introduce a lot and 1653 01:18:46,380 --> 01:18:43,900 kind of put them at the center that's 1654 01:18:48,060 --> 01:18:46,390 why you you know all this you know God's 1655 01:18:51,660 --> 01:18:48,070 chosen people and all this stuff like 1656 01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:51,670 how on earth that still somehow relevant 1657 01:18:56,220 --> 01:18:53,560 today and they're able to kind of 1658 01:18:57,289 --> 01:18:56,230 convince people even to this day I mean 1659 01:19:01,969 --> 01:18:57,299 that's 1660 01:19:04,789 --> 01:19:01,979 pretty amazing you know so what actually 1661 01:19:08,269 --> 01:19:04,799 happened back then to give them that 1662 01:19:11,029 --> 01:19:08,279 sort of you know chutzpah or whatever 1663 01:19:13,969 --> 01:19:11,039 you know mm-hmm yeah well I think that 1664 01:19:17,409 --> 01:19:13,979 it's true that the victors write their 1665 01:19:20,299 --> 01:19:17,419 own history and that's true of the 1666 01:19:23,419 --> 01:19:20,309 ancient Jewish people as well but they 1667 01:19:25,819 --> 01:19:23,429 were also persecuted so during times of 1668 01:19:29,569 --> 01:19:25,829 persecution you want to feel like there 1669 01:19:32,029 --> 01:19:29,579 is a way out there do not you're not 1670 01:19:33,709 --> 01:19:32,039 just an oppressed meaningless people 1671 01:19:36,469 --> 01:19:33,719 right there you have you have value have 1672 01:19:40,009 --> 01:19:36,479 meaning give profound meaning and and so 1673 01:19:42,909 --> 01:19:40,019 you write history within your religion 1674 01:19:45,409 --> 01:19:42,919 that that gives you that meaning and 1675 01:19:47,149 --> 01:19:45,419 that's them that's true of any time in 1676 01:19:49,129 --> 01:19:47,159 any place so I know what you're saying 1677 01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:49,139 yeah that it's it's ancient so how did 1678 01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:51,329 that get passed down specifically that 1679 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:54,329 you know the Israelites for the chosen 1680 01:19:59,899 --> 01:19:57,449 ones I think it's as simple as people 1681 01:20:01,789 --> 01:19:59,909 people want to feel like like they're 1682 01:20:03,739 --> 01:20:01,799 the chosen ones that no matter what 1683 01:20:06,589 --> 01:20:03,749 happens they're gonna be taken care of 1684 01:20:09,649 --> 01:20:06,599 in the end right but you find this in 1685 01:20:11,569 --> 01:20:09,659 the same thing as Islam right my book 1686 01:20:13,069 --> 01:20:11,579 you know this my god you know this is 1687 01:20:14,989 --> 01:20:13,079 the only book you can read right 1688 01:20:17,449 --> 01:20:14,999 Christianity kind of same thing King 1689 01:20:19,250 --> 01:20:17,459 James Bible you know you find this and 1690 01:20:23,329 --> 01:20:19,260 then the principles the Abrahamic 1691 01:20:25,009 --> 01:20:23,339 religions and people who only you know 1692 01:20:27,889 --> 01:20:25,019 practice Islam since they were a child 1693 01:20:32,389 --> 01:20:27,899 or practice you know Hebrew Judaism 1694 01:20:35,779 --> 01:20:32,399 whatever if they only do that and they 1695 01:20:39,229 --> 01:20:35,789 never look to what the ancient Indians 1696 01:20:42,279 --> 01:20:39,239 had to say and if they don't read the 1697 01:20:47,019 --> 01:20:42,289 ancient Hindu texts write Ramayana and 1698 01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:47,029 the Vedas and vodka pita and all this 1699 01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:49,199 they're gonna be missing out a lot and 1700 01:20:52,879 --> 01:20:50,249 they're not gonna be able to piece 1701 01:20:54,589 --> 01:20:52,889 together the puzzle and if they don't 1702 01:20:57,199 --> 01:20:54,599 look into what the Native Americans have 1703 01:20:58,729 --> 01:20:57,209 been saying they're not gonna get that 1704 01:21:00,889 --> 01:20:58,739 as well they're just gonna be stuck in 1705 01:21:03,849 --> 01:21:00,899 one paradigm when you look at the 1706 01:21:06,679 --> 01:21:03,859 ancient Indian stuff it's like well okay 1707 01:21:08,869 --> 01:21:06,689 because they have no qualms they're all 1708 01:21:10,820 --> 01:21:08,879 about ancient aliens and ancient 1709 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:10,830 freaking nuclear wars I mean 1710 01:21:16,250 --> 01:21:14,250 all about yeah that's no big deal right 1711 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:16,260 so it's like oh wait a minute you know 1712 01:21:21,650 --> 01:21:18,570 here's another ancient civilization with 1713 01:21:24,050 --> 01:21:21,660 megalithic structures incredible history 1714 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:24,060 and you know maybe we should kind of 1715 01:21:28,970 --> 01:21:26,370 listen to what they got to say and then 1716 01:21:31,390 --> 01:21:28,980 you look at the Native Americans you 1717 01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:31,400 know they're all about star people and 1718 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:34,560 aliens reptilians and like yeah it's not 1719 01:21:38,810 --> 01:21:36,330 even a big deal Giants man they're 1720 01:21:43,210 --> 01:21:38,820 fighting names of giants way back you 1721 01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:43,220 know so I think it's kind of a universal 1722 01:21:50,740 --> 01:21:48,360 thing you know it's a consciousness now 1723 01:21:54,230 --> 01:21:50,750 it's expanding we we have a sort of 1724 01:21:56,210 --> 01:21:54,240 universal consciousness anyways so I 1725 01:21:57,710 --> 01:21:56,220 think with the internet I mean the 1726 01:22:00,350 --> 01:21:57,720 Internet is a great tool because it 1727 01:22:02,990 --> 01:22:00,360 allows you to have information right and 1728 01:22:05,810 --> 01:22:03,000 you could look up anything in here in a 1729 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:05,820 position where you there's no excuse to 1730 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:08,370 be dumb the problem with the Internet as 1731 01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:11,610 well is is but the same thing is the the 1732 01:22:18,020 --> 01:22:14,280 Internet is also dark tool because it it 1733 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:18,030 killed attention spans and it made you 1734 01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:19,530 know make everyone pretty much drooling 1735 01:22:27,710 --> 01:22:23,910 Sam that's right yeah I mean it's the 1736 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:27,720 zombie effect I think you can see it 1737 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:30,810 clearly here in the metropolitan area in 1738 01:22:36,830 --> 01:22:35,250 New York City I mean this my wife and I 1739 01:22:40,220 --> 01:22:36,840 were just talking about that today today 1740 01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:40,230 people are walking around the street you 1741 01:22:45,890 --> 01:22:42,480 know crossing intersections with cars 1742 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:45,900 and people and they're staring at their 1743 01:22:53,660 --> 01:22:50,730 phone it's it's crazy it's crazy I mean 1744 01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:53,670 it's not everybody but it's enough that 1745 01:23:00,200 --> 01:22:58,530 it is it is troubling well you know what 1746 01:23:01,820 --> 01:23:00,210 the long-term effects of this is gonna 1747 01:23:06,140 --> 01:23:01,830 be other than just sort of zoning out 1748 01:23:07,670 --> 01:23:06,150 life and then of course like there is a 1749 01:23:09,980 --> 01:23:07,680 life within the phone you can still have 1750 01:23:14,060 --> 01:23:09,990 like a social life through the phone I 1751 01:23:16,340 --> 01:23:14,070 get that I do that too but um but but 1752 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:16,350 when you're in the you know the the 1753 01:23:22,940 --> 01:23:20,370 three-dimensional world people more and 1754 01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:22,950 more people are disconnecting I see it 1755 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:24,150 for sure 1756 01:23:32,270 --> 01:23:26,010 I don't think it's absolutely dire yet 1757 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:32,280 but it could be in time and exactly yeah 1758 01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:34,770 that's that's the next big scare right 1759 01:23:40,910 --> 01:23:37,110 other than water surge all right coming 1760 01:23:42,410 --> 01:23:40,920 up then next and final segment is avian 1761 01:23:44,450 --> 01:23:42,420 haze we're going to continue speaking up 1762 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:44,460 with speaking about his ancient aliens 1763 01:23:50,450 --> 01:23:48,330 in the Bible evidence of UFOs Nephilim 1764 01:23:52,130 --> 01:23:50,460 and the true face of angels and ancient 1765 01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:52,140 scriptures this is Alan B Smith on the 1766 01:24:00,720 --> 01:23:53,940 inception radio network hang in there 1767 01:24:05,419 --> 01:24:03,250 [Music] 1768 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:05,429 welcome back to paranormal now this is 1769 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:07,170 Alan B Smith your host on the inception 1770 01:24:10,970 --> 01:24:09,449 radio network my guest tonight is leave 1771 01:24:14,630 --> 01:24:10,980 Ian Hayes and taking us out of the break 1772 01:24:15,620 --> 01:24:14,640 is what I got by sublime for all my 1773 01:24:18,169 --> 01:24:15,630 nineties people you know what I'm 1774 01:24:20,780 --> 01:24:18,179 talking about and I'm just gonna put a 1775 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:20,790 shout out again to galaxy 1776 01:24:26,060 --> 01:24:24,210 GA LAX underscore IA on instagram check 1777 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:26,070 out her account it's awesome she's also 1778 01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:28,650 one of the owners of ambrosia elixirs 1779 01:24:32,780 --> 01:24:31,409 which is opening up in Brooklyn I was so 1780 01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:32,790 close to going there the other day and I 1781 01:24:36,830 --> 01:24:34,140 didn't go but they're having a soft 1782 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:36,840 opening so I'm not sure what the exact 1783 01:24:40,399 --> 01:24:38,489 times are yet but if you live in New 1784 01:24:41,810 --> 01:24:40,409 York area or Brooklyn at least check out 1785 01:24:45,140 --> 01:24:41,820 their website and sign up for their 1786 01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:45,150 newsletter if for when they're next 1787 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:46,800 their actual official opening date will 1788 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:50,330 be these guys are pretty cool okay so 1789 01:24:54,919 --> 01:24:53,130 getting back to the the core topic we've 1790 01:24:56,660 --> 01:24:54,929 covered so much ground and and there's 1791 01:25:00,439 --> 01:24:56,670 so much more ground to cover but we have 1792 01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:00,449 one last segment here Davian so before 1793 01:25:04,850 --> 01:25:02,310 we get into that I want to ask you a 1794 01:25:06,740 --> 01:25:04,860 little bit about Jesus as well but again 1795 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:06,750 people can find you on Facebook they can 1796 01:25:12,410 --> 01:25:10,650 find your books on Amazon and if you 1797 01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:12,420 want to file a paranormal now just go at 1798 01:25:17,570 --> 01:25:15,360 powering on one hour radio on Facebook 1799 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:17,580 and on Instagram it's at paranormal now 1800 01:25:21,470 --> 01:25:19,770 and you can follow me there I post here 1801 01:25:23,810 --> 01:25:21,480 and there on Facebook for updates on 1802 01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:23,820 shows and as well on Instagram and 1803 01:25:28,939 --> 01:25:25,710 that's kind of like my playground to 1804 01:25:31,610 --> 01:25:28,949 Instagram as well all right cool so 1805 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:31,620 Simon let's let's hear what you have to 1806 01:25:50,990 --> 01:25:49,650 say about Yeshua Jesus I mean I have as 1807 01:25:54,399 --> 01:25:51,000 a researcher and you know as a 1808 01:25:57,620 --> 01:25:54,409 journalist and you know I'm all about 1809 01:26:01,939 --> 01:25:57,630 trying to get the most amount of 1810 01:26:06,380 --> 01:26:01,949 information I can right but uh you know 1811 01:26:08,030 --> 01:26:06,390 with Jesus there's so much you know 1812 01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,040 there's so much where you could kind of 1813 01:26:13,250 --> 01:26:10,080 say okay this guy was a total creation 1814 01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:13,260 of the of the Roman Empire right you 1815 01:26:17,620 --> 01:26:14,639 know you can kind of go that route or 1816 01:26:21,919 --> 01:26:17,630 you could kind of go into the whole 1817 01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:21,929 supernatural element you know and you 1818 01:26:26,620 --> 01:26:23,310 kind of go even go with the hybrid 1819 01:26:29,629 --> 01:26:26,630 element with you know the Angels 1820 01:26:31,540 --> 01:26:29,639 impregnating his mother right and keep 1821 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:31,550 him becoming aware of his powers and 1822 01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:35,250 these sort of things so there's the 1823 01:26:41,540 --> 01:26:37,110 story of Jesus plus you have the whole 1824 01:26:43,220 --> 01:26:41,550 Astro theological aspect of Osiris was 1825 01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:43,230 kind of the first Jesus right you have 1826 01:26:47,689 --> 01:26:45,600 the Mithra who Romans kind of worshipped 1827 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:47,699 like a Jesus figure before introducing 1828 01:26:55,580 --> 01:26:51,810 Jesus right so there's the Buddha has 1829 01:26:58,250 --> 01:26:55,590 sort of the same kind of qualities so 1830 01:27:01,310 --> 01:26:58,260 you have all those things to kind of 1831 01:27:04,129 --> 01:27:01,320 wade through as well but to me when what 1832 01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:04,139 makes Jesus important is is the story 1833 01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:08,400 it's the message and the things he's 1834 01:27:13,850 --> 01:27:11,820 attributed to saying you know in the 1835 01:27:16,459 --> 01:27:13,860 story itself right the money fighting 1836 01:27:18,770 --> 01:27:16,469 against the money changers you know 1837 01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:18,780 these sort of things right even if he 1838 01:27:23,780 --> 01:27:20,040 was just a guy and he was a 1839 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:23,790 revolutionary guy you know sure who kind 1840 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:25,050 of fighting it fought against the 1841 01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:27,570 establishment right and was murdered for 1842 01:27:31,729 --> 01:27:28,159 it 1843 01:27:36,140 --> 01:27:31,739 unjustly so I think the story of Jesus 1844 01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:36,150 is is is timeless and powerful and it 1845 01:27:42,260 --> 01:27:39,600 gives it gives you power to believe in 1846 01:27:43,700 --> 01:27:42,270 him and to believe to be christ-like 1847 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:43,710 that's kind of what Christian being a 1848 01:27:49,010 --> 01:27:47,010 Christian is about right and yeah so if 1849 01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:49,020 you want to be a Christian you want to 1850 01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:50,719 be christ-like and you want to kind of 1851 01:27:55,879 --> 01:27:53,370 live the life of Christ and kind of do 1852 01:27:59,330 --> 01:27:55,889 unto others as they do unto you and keep 1853 01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:59,340 these these good things that we're all 1854 01:28:06,440 --> 01:28:00,239 supposed to 1855 01:28:08,660 --> 01:28:06,450 by example you know and I think if 1856 01:28:11,209 --> 01:28:08,670 that's why to me personally that's why 1857 01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:11,219 the that's why I love Jesus and I love 1858 01:28:16,580 --> 01:28:13,380 the story of Jesus and I think it's a 1859 01:28:19,930 --> 01:28:16,590 good thing to uh to have that dis 1860 01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:19,940 knowledge about this man whether he was 1861 01:28:25,340 --> 01:28:22,140 existed or not I mean that's kind of 1862 01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:25,350 irrelevant I think it's to make you a 1863 01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:27,120 better person and to make you actually 1864 01:28:32,959 --> 01:28:29,760 do the right things and to kind of keep 1865 01:28:38,660 --> 01:28:32,969 you on the right path I think that's a 1866 01:28:43,190 --> 01:28:38,670 beautiful thing but he was born of a 1867 01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:43,200 virgin mother or no I mean well if you 1868 01:28:53,930 --> 01:28:50,400 take what it says it was implanted into 1869 01:28:57,229 --> 01:28:53,940 a virgin maybe I mean he wasn't there's 1870 01:29:01,310 --> 01:28:57,239 nothing that says that the virgin birth 1871 01:29:05,810 --> 01:29:01,320 is was possible without the Angels 1872 01:29:07,490 --> 01:29:05,820 visiting so there's no purely virgin 1873 01:29:09,950 --> 01:29:07,500 birth right I mean there was an angel 1874 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:09,960 involved so you could kind of take that 1875 01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,690 how you want and then I guess you have 1876 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:14,880 that the aspects of the virgin birth and 1877 01:29:20,810 --> 01:29:17,850 other parts of theology right and other 1878 01:29:24,190 --> 01:29:20,820 cultures but they're always assisted by 1879 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:24,200 some sort of angel right 1880 01:29:28,700 --> 01:29:27,210 has there ever ever been any just like 1881 01:29:32,959 --> 01:29:28,710 virgin births throughout history 1882 01:29:34,690 --> 01:29:32,969 do we know of any scientific science any 1883 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:34,700 scientific events that have happened 1884 01:29:40,820 --> 01:29:37,050 just a lady just got pregnant 1885 01:29:45,890 --> 01:29:40,830 all of a sudden nope they just can't 1886 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:45,900 happen exactly yeah so and and and was 1887 01:29:53,620 --> 01:29:49,410 it wasn't not true that an angel was 1888 01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:53,630 sent to her by God there you go that's 1889 01:30:02,810 --> 01:29:57,690 kind of that's the most yeah yeah that's 1890 01:30:04,490 --> 01:30:02,820 right they never mention that part you 1891 01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:04,500 know they forget that little one little 1892 01:30:09,620 --> 01:30:06,450 detail it's pretty important you know 1893 01:30:10,430 --> 01:30:09,630 God sends the angel to hope I help out a 1894 01:30:12,530 --> 01:30:10,440 little bit 1895 01:30:16,030 --> 01:30:12,540 right because joseph' like he was like 1896 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:16,040 what's going on what the hell mm-hmm 1897 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:20,010 yeah and I mean poor just I think I 1898 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:21,930 think we're supposed to get that he got 1899 01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:23,370 it that he was cool with it that it 1900 01:30:30,260 --> 01:30:26,730 wasn't like actual intercourse but then 1901 01:30:32,420 --> 01:30:30,270 why send an angel down you know why why 1902 01:30:35,810 --> 01:30:32,430 didn't she just wake up from her sleep 1903 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:35,820 one one day and or just walked walking 1904 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:37,410 down the street God just came in to her 1905 01:30:42,380 --> 01:30:40,050 and said okay here we are you know it's 1906 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:42,390 um you know it you would think that if 1907 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:45,410 God is that you know omniscient 1908 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:47,610 all-powerful being you wouldn't need an 1909 01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:52,650 angel to sort of today right yeah what 1910 01:30:57,020 --> 01:30:54,000 do you need a surrogate for it's very 1911 01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:57,030 strange because if that's the if you 1912 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:01,199 need a the physical surrogate then it 1913 01:31:05,979 --> 01:31:03,090 sounds like physical sex to me because 1914 01:31:08,689 --> 01:31:05,989 angels are they not described more as 1915 01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:08,699 physical beings and let then the 1916 01:31:13,250 --> 01:31:11,070 ethereal we know right and we know from 1917 01:31:18,410 --> 01:31:13,260 the story of Lamech that they got busy 1918 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:18,420 they like the Eve's you know different 1919 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:20,370 there are different categories of angels 1920 01:31:26,780 --> 01:31:23,489 soon as I just wasn't sure if they were 1921 01:31:30,050 --> 01:31:26,790 in the Old Testament they you know 1922 01:31:34,130 --> 01:31:30,060 original writings that were they 1923 01:31:37,130 --> 01:31:34,140 considered to be physical beings on the 1924 01:31:39,290 --> 01:31:37,140 earth all all kinds of yes so there's 1925 01:31:41,620 --> 01:31:39,300 only one word that basically a gallows 1926 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:41,630 right I mean in its stretch as physical 1927 01:31:49,130 --> 01:31:46,530 emissaries right now I do believe in 1928 01:31:51,650 --> 01:31:49,140 angels I've definitely had a few angel 1929 01:31:55,700 --> 01:31:51,660 encounters for sure and I think that in 1930 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:55,710 the metaphysical world you know we will 1931 01:31:58,970 --> 01:31:56,610 encounter 1932 01:32:01,010 --> 01:31:58,980 they won't even mean they're not angels 1933 01:32:04,570 --> 01:32:01,020 themselves they just might happen to be 1934 01:32:06,620 --> 01:32:04,580 in a position where metaphysical sense 1935 01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:06,630 they're definitely there's definitely 1936 01:32:12,380 --> 01:32:09,570 some angelic things going on and I think 1937 01:32:15,020 --> 01:32:12,390 we can all kind of I think we've all had 1938 01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:15,030 these these sort of encounters right 1939 01:32:18,350 --> 01:32:17,040 and that's a metaphysical thing in that 1940 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:18,360 but that is not what they're talking 1941 01:32:21,950 --> 01:32:18,930 about 1942 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:21,960 in the ancient text at all there's these 1943 01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:26,370 these were actual people you know so we 1944 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:33,120 have the aspect of two angels and one 1945 01:32:38,660 --> 01:32:37,050 particular angel right who kind of what 1946 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:38,670 is that like hold on we're gonna okay 1947 01:32:43,790 --> 01:32:41,970 yeah God sent His only Son right but was 1948 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:43,800 really his son who was like one of the 1949 01:32:57,010 --> 01:32:52,170 angels son no matter how you went there 1950 01:33:02,240 --> 01:32:57,020 with that Jesus did have these powers so 1951 01:33:06,290 --> 01:33:02,250 right in your and your assumption what 1952 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:06,300 do you think where do you think those 1953 01:33:12,590 --> 01:33:09,650 powers came from I mean these are 1954 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:12,600 supernatural sort of powers that had to 1955 01:33:20,420 --> 01:33:16,170 come from if it was hybrid if it was 1956 01:33:22,910 --> 01:33:20,430 some sort of alien powers it has to come 1957 01:33:27,020 --> 01:33:22,920 from that sort of some sort of lineage 1958 01:33:29,150 --> 01:33:27,030 just like that if if they were true if 1959 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:29,160 they were true powers that he had you 1960 01:33:34,220 --> 01:33:32,370 know cuz then you got to think like what 1961 01:33:36,710 --> 01:33:34,230 was Jesus just you know sort of a 1962 01:33:39,860 --> 01:33:36,720 magician was he a master illusionist 1963 01:33:40,990 --> 01:33:39,870 right you know was he tricking people to 1964 01:33:44,900 --> 01:33:41,000 walk on water 1965 01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:44,910 was he levitate you know like or were 1966 01:33:51,260 --> 01:33:46,530 these real things did he really have 1967 01:33:52,940 --> 01:33:51,270 that somehow you know he had sandals 1968 01:33:56,300 --> 01:33:52,950 with hoverboard technology in it or 1969 01:33:58,220 --> 01:33:56,310 something right I mean I think they were 1970 01:34:00,650 --> 01:33:58,230 probably I mean unless they're they're 1971 01:34:03,890 --> 01:34:00,660 really well uh you know disguised 1972 01:34:06,830 --> 01:34:03,900 sandals you know if they're like this 1973 01:34:08,990 --> 01:34:06,840 super slick like metallic or Nike 1974 01:34:11,930 --> 01:34:09,000 looking sandals I think it would 1975 01:34:13,940 --> 01:34:11,940 probably wrote that down you know but 1976 01:34:18,490 --> 01:34:13,950 they didn't they didn't say yeah because 1977 01:34:21,620 --> 01:34:18,500 the other supernatural occurrences are 1978 01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:21,630 explained in some way right they see the 1979 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:24,450 fire it looks like this this is how it 1980 01:34:27,290 --> 01:34:25,410 was done 1981 01:34:28,850 --> 01:34:27,300 whereas Jesus's miracles 1982 01:34:31,419 --> 01:34:28,860 really does seem to sort of just come 1983 01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:31,429 out of him all right 1984 01:34:37,850 --> 01:34:35,489 the whole thing you know we hold missing 1985 01:34:41,540 --> 01:34:37,860 years of Jesus you know like you started 1986 01:34:44,569 --> 01:34:41,550 it's kind of like x-men you know you get 1987 01:34:46,580 --> 01:34:44,579 to Xavier X Professor X's Academy 1988 01:34:48,319 --> 01:34:46,590 because because they know he got 1989 01:34:50,660 --> 01:34:48,329 something wrong he got some sort of 1990 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:50,670 powers then when you're there you're 1991 01:34:54,770 --> 01:34:53,489 you're now it's unchecked now you're you 1992 01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:54,780 know you're you're doing all kinds of 1993 01:35:00,830 --> 01:34:57,690 cool stuff you know you're turning fish 1994 01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:00,840 into you know jerk chicken and whatever 1995 01:35:05,959 --> 01:35:03,570 in you know they got to send you away 1996 01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:05,969 now like oh man now he's starting to get 1997 01:35:11,629 --> 01:35:09,090 too comfortable and too uh you know 1998 01:35:14,450 --> 01:35:11,639 going to experimental with this power so 1999 01:35:16,850 --> 01:35:14,460 we got to send you away is that what 2000 01:35:18,890 --> 01:35:16,860 happened they did they send him to bed 2001 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:18,900 or something to figure out how to how to 2002 01:35:25,310 --> 01:35:22,650 use how to use his powers better maybe 2003 01:35:27,319 --> 01:35:25,320 he was gonna be a show-off and you know 2004 01:35:29,209 --> 01:35:27,329 who knows right yeah but the thing is 2005 01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:29,219 like you have this these missing years 2006 01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:32,010 of Jesus which are also fascinating then 2007 01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:33,480 he comes back and he's just you know 2008 01:35:39,970 --> 01:35:37,110 that he's the man right but uh in the 2009 01:35:45,530 --> 01:35:39,980 Indian in you have the Masonic elements 2010 01:35:49,970 --> 01:35:45,540 33 let all these numerical clues and 2011 01:35:52,970 --> 01:35:49,980 symbols but yeah it seems to be that 2012 01:35:55,910 --> 01:35:52,980 when she read the Jesus story you read 2013 01:36:00,890 --> 01:35:55,920 him more into it the supernatural 2014 01:36:03,169 --> 01:36:00,900 elements and the magic elements he 2015 01:36:06,649 --> 01:36:03,179 really takes on a whole different life 2016 01:36:09,020 --> 01:36:06,659 of his own other than just being some 2017 01:36:10,580 --> 01:36:09,030 sort of preacher right I mean you know 2018 01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:10,590 the act of riding the donkey into 2019 01:36:15,260 --> 01:36:12,960 Jerusalem because he knew that's what 2020 01:36:17,930 --> 01:36:15,270 you know the prophecy called for he knew 2021 01:36:19,330 --> 01:36:17,940 that's what they were gonna be looking 2022 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:19,340 for so you know how to push buttons 2023 01:36:26,899 --> 01:36:22,650 already he already knew he knew he was 2024 01:36:30,890 --> 01:36:26,909 somebody but to the extent of did he 2025 01:36:32,959 --> 01:36:30,900 know was he has some alien powers or was 2026 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:32,969 he just a good magician you know that's 2027 01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:34,770 it that's the point I hadn't thought 2028 01:36:40,430 --> 01:36:38,250 much on I think that you made he knew 2029 01:36:41,089 --> 01:36:40,440 the the prophecy people knew what the 2030 01:36:46,429 --> 01:36:41,099 prophecy 2031 01:36:48,799 --> 01:36:46,439 was so it's not that hard to emulate the 2032 01:36:50,779 --> 01:36:48,809 prophecy and make yourself look like the 2033 01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:50,789 Prophet now that nothing I'm saying he 2034 01:36:56,689 --> 01:36:53,760 wasn't and at this discarding all of it 2035 01:37:04,459 --> 01:36:56,699 I'm just saying that it you can't rule 2036 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:04,469 that out okay of taking it from this 2037 01:37:12,799 --> 01:37:07,050 ancient alien point of view what would 2038 01:37:15,949 --> 01:37:12,809 have been the point of of Jesus I don't 2039 01:37:18,799 --> 01:37:15,959 I mean I kind of put it out there that 2040 01:37:20,060 --> 01:37:18,809 maybe that they were out of state in 2041 01:37:21,949 --> 01:37:20,070 that point of history where they were 2042 01:37:24,409 --> 01:37:21,959 very few and they kind of maybe we're 2043 01:37:26,179 --> 01:37:24,419 losing maybe that lost most of 2044 01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:26,189 technology and they lost its way over 2045 01:37:32,599 --> 01:37:28,639 the people mm-hmm I think maybe 2046 01:37:34,669 --> 01:37:32,609 introducing Jesus like figure might have 2047 01:37:37,009 --> 01:37:34,679 been some sort of like last hurrah for 2048 01:37:39,500 --> 01:37:37,019 them to try to get control back or maybe 2049 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:39,510 to kind of remain relevant in a world 2050 01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:43,050 that had moved on you know I mean cuz 2051 01:37:47,689 --> 01:37:45,689 you when we think about time of Jesus 2052 01:37:49,219 --> 01:37:47,699 man that was wasn't really that long ago 2053 01:37:51,049 --> 01:37:49,229 if you think about it because this is I 2054 01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:51,059 mean this is when the Roman Empire was 2055 01:37:57,139 --> 01:37:54,090 you know running the world basically so 2056 01:38:00,619 --> 01:37:57,149 and and we can still go to Rome we could 2057 01:38:03,379 --> 01:38:00,629 see the architect is and you see him you 2058 01:38:05,689 --> 01:38:03,389 know with the menorah right and taking 2059 01:38:08,839 --> 01:38:05,699 the stuff out of Jerusalem right there 2060 01:38:13,009 --> 01:38:08,849 your face so this really wasn't that 2061 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:13,019 long ago if in the terms of you know and 2062 01:38:18,469 --> 01:38:16,050 if you think about billion years old 2063 01:38:20,689 --> 01:38:18,479 millions of years old right I mean the 2064 01:38:23,389 --> 01:38:20,699 Romans weren't that far removed man you 2065 01:38:25,279 --> 01:38:23,399 know yeah well if you look at occupation 2066 01:38:27,409 --> 01:38:25,289 and how our military moves into an area 2067 01:38:29,179 --> 01:38:27,419 we occupy it for a while and then 2068 01:38:30,979 --> 01:38:29,189 eventually we move out but we don't move 2069 01:38:33,159 --> 01:38:30,989 out all of a sudden we move out little 2070 01:38:37,729 --> 01:38:33,169 by little we move out in stages and 2071 01:38:39,259 --> 01:38:37,739 maybe as time went on people up people 2072 01:38:41,689 --> 01:38:39,269 in the Nephilim or the these ancient 2073 01:38:42,770 --> 01:38:41,699 aliens were they had finished mostly 2074 01:38:44,750 --> 01:38:42,780 what they wanted to do here on earth 2075 01:38:46,819 --> 01:38:44,760 they've had their battles their scars 2076 01:38:48,619 --> 01:38:46,829 and their I said you know what all right 2077 01:38:50,209 --> 01:38:48,629 when I were going home and then in 2078 01:38:52,699 --> 01:38:50,219 phases little by little and over time 2079 01:38:54,649 --> 01:38:52,709 some were left behind until until now 2080 01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:54,659 maybe there are only but a few that just 2081 01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:55,119 sort of 2082 01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:57,280 keep an eye on the place and and that's 2083 01:39:03,179 --> 01:39:00,639 about it and maybe maybe then again 2084 01:39:05,699 --> 01:39:03,189 totally speculating and just having fun 2085 01:39:08,399 --> 01:39:05,709 with my imagination but maybe those left 2086 01:39:09,719 --> 01:39:08,409 behind at that time was like look you 2087 01:39:12,119 --> 01:39:09,729 know let's try to do something 2088 01:39:17,449 --> 01:39:12,129 meaningful while we're here and maybe 2089 01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:17,459 Jesus was the the the result of that I 2090 01:39:22,350 --> 01:39:20,110 think so I mean I think that's that 2091 01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:22,360 makes sense to me and I think they had a 2092 01:39:29,069 --> 01:39:26,530 lot of who knows who was left at that 2093 01:39:30,209 --> 01:39:29,079 point of time I mean and what they were 2094 01:39:32,219 --> 01:39:30,219 going through and what they actually 2095 01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:32,229 were able capable of doing you know I 2096 01:39:40,379 --> 01:39:37,530 mean and then afterwards right I mean 2097 01:39:43,619 --> 01:39:40,389 I'll always kind of believed through all 2098 01:39:47,310 --> 01:39:43,629 my research or even doing the aliens in 2099 01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:47,320 Egypt book there's some sort of alien 2100 01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:50,639 presence but a evil alien presence 2101 01:39:56,759 --> 01:39:53,530 that's kind of managed to kind of be in 2102 01:40:00,060 --> 01:39:56,769 control remain in control I think we 2103 01:40:01,799 --> 01:40:00,070 still have to deal with it and I think 2104 01:40:03,839 --> 01:40:01,809 their days are numbered and then they 2105 01:40:06,979 --> 01:40:03,849 might not has be prevalent even with the 2106 01:40:09,389 --> 01:40:06,989 reptilians stuff but there has to be 2107 01:40:12,359 --> 01:40:09,399 it's too much wickedness there's just 2108 01:40:13,969 --> 01:40:12,369 too much sorrow and too much ridiculous 2109 01:40:16,799 --> 01:40:13,979 things too many good people have died 2110 01:40:21,689 --> 01:40:16,809 from that for there not to be as some 2111 01:40:23,939 --> 01:40:21,699 sort of real evil presence you know and 2112 01:40:26,669 --> 01:40:23,949 these are not a human trait uh you know 2113 01:40:31,709 --> 01:40:26,679 like we're creator beings you know we 2114 01:40:35,250 --> 01:40:31,719 were born to be creative and we you know 2115 01:40:39,299 --> 01:40:35,260 in - in nature right we're pretty pretty 2116 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:39,309 simple race you know we're I don't think 2117 01:40:44,250 --> 01:40:42,489 there's so much room for hate in room 2118 01:40:49,830 --> 01:40:44,260 for wickedness I think that's something 2119 01:40:52,619 --> 01:40:49,840 that was introduced and I think it's the 2120 01:40:56,159 --> 01:40:52,629 evilness that controls the real power 2121 01:40:58,049 --> 01:40:56,169 structure so wicked it thrives on some 2122 01:40:59,790 --> 01:40:58,059 sort of sacrifice some sort of ritual 2123 01:41:01,049 --> 01:40:59,800 some sort of bloodletting 2124 01:41:02,669 --> 01:41:01,059 you know I don't know if they get off on 2125 01:41:05,339 --> 01:41:02,679 an interdimensionally or what but 2126 01:41:07,979 --> 01:41:05,349 there's been too many wars there's too 2127 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:07,989 much suffering even look at all of the 2128 01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:08,810 nonsense of 2129 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:10,320 [Music] 2130 01:41:14,700 --> 01:41:12,370 sacrifices and look at the Aztecs 2131 01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:14,710 sacrificed all the time all ancient 2132 01:41:20,490 --> 01:41:16,810 cultures make obsessed with sacrifice 2133 01:41:23,250 --> 01:41:20,500 even in the oh who Abraham right he was 2134 01:41:25,740 --> 01:41:23,260 in a sacrifice his son till God was like 2135 01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:25,750 hey you know maybe probably should 2136 01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:27,370 rethink that you know what's up with 2137 01:41:35,790 --> 01:41:31,920 this sacrifice you know so I think the 2138 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:35,800 there has to be some sort of wicked evil 2139 01:41:44,190 --> 01:41:40,530 alien presence that's kind of managed to 2140 01:41:45,150 --> 01:41:44,200 stick around and to control things so 2141 01:41:47,370 --> 01:41:45,160 you're not you're not saying that the 2142 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:47,380 you're not saying the alien presence has 2143 01:41:51,930 --> 01:41:49,810 control over human nature but that but 2144 01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:51,940 they have influenced the things that 2145 01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:55,090 we've done that are more yeah okay for 2146 01:41:59,700 --> 01:41:57,040 sure I think even behind the scenes I 2147 01:42:01,290 --> 01:41:59,710 think highest level of powers I think 2148 01:42:04,230 --> 01:42:01,300 that they're they might still be around 2149 01:42:06,690 --> 01:42:04,240 or at least up until recently you know I 2150 01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:06,700 would assume there has to be something 2151 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:09,760 in some sort of control and in the back 2152 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:12,370 that or maybe it's just influenced by 2153 01:42:18,450 --> 01:42:14,650 that you know I mean I don't know it 2154 01:42:20,970 --> 01:42:18,460 seems to be that we're such a loving and 2155 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:20,980 most people are good right most people 2156 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:23,170 want to do good I think we've been so 2157 01:42:28,770 --> 01:42:26,770 screwed over and I think that by design 2158 01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:28,780 of course you know I think you know 2159 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:32,110 these are all just sort of these wicked 2160 01:42:35,610 --> 01:42:33,730 plans you Genesis and everything else 2161 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:35,620 that kind of been implementing on 2162 01:42:40,950 --> 01:42:37,330 thrusting I mean you look at 2163 01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:40,960 transhumanism zombies okay I can't hear 2164 01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:42,880 to go outside cuz it's just too much man 2165 01:42:48,030 --> 01:42:45,010 system what zombies it's too much sorrow 2166 01:42:50,430 --> 01:42:48,040 too much for me a sensitive person and 2167 01:42:52,530 --> 01:42:50,440 the artist and someone who's aware of 2168 01:42:58,150 --> 01:42:52,540 all this no writes about all this it's 2169 01:43:01,990 --> 01:42:58,160 like yo I is it's really hard to 2170 01:43:06,340 --> 01:43:02,000 to see the state of mankind as it is 2171 01:43:08,140 --> 01:43:06,350 today well I suppose as it always has 2172 01:43:10,450 --> 01:43:08,150 been right I mean I don't I don't know 2173 01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:10,460 how much how much better we've gotten 2174 01:43:15,460 --> 01:43:13,760 and perhaps collectively as a society 2175 01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:15,470 now on earth 2176 01:43:21,940 --> 01:43:17,840 we're at the best place we've been to 2177 01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:21,950 and if that's the case because 2178 01:43:27,460 --> 01:43:25,760 technology that's it I mean history 2179 01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:27,470 sucks man you look at like the Wild West 2180 01:43:31,810 --> 01:43:29,870 days and everything else pretty crappy 2181 01:43:33,460 --> 01:43:31,820 time to be alive pretty much every point 2182 01:43:35,050 --> 01:43:33,470 of history and we imagine like Civil War 2183 01:43:38,440 --> 01:43:35,060 then after the Civil War how much that 2184 01:43:40,510 --> 01:43:38,450 sucked right I mean people people back 2185 01:43:44,050 --> 01:43:40,520 in the day had multiple children because 2186 01:43:47,620 --> 01:43:44,060 they knew it was it wasn't a hope though 2187 01:43:50,590 --> 01:43:47,630 it wasn't a doubt there was it was a 2188 01:43:55,020 --> 01:43:50,600 fact for most people that you were gonna 2189 01:43:57,700 --> 01:43:55,030 lose at least one of your children right 2190 01:44:00,430 --> 01:43:57,710 people don't think people can grasp that 2191 01:44:02,110 --> 01:44:00,440 today didn't you're poor and you need 2192 01:44:04,330 --> 01:44:02,120 more people to work to farm or to do 2193 01:44:06,490 --> 01:44:04,340 whatever yes well of course so if you 2194 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:06,500 only have two children and one or both 2195 01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:08,810 of them died you know so it makes sense 2196 01:44:13,420 --> 01:44:10,970 whether you want kids because you love 2197 01:44:16,780 --> 01:44:13,430 them and or you have you know farmland 2198 01:44:18,730 --> 01:44:16,790 to work or what have you you had to have 2199 01:44:20,980 --> 01:44:18,740 more because there was the morbid fact 2200 01:44:23,410 --> 01:44:20,990 you know fact was always hovering over 2201 01:44:26,110 --> 01:44:23,420 your head the thing is there are people 2202 01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:26,120 that still live like that today there's 2203 01:44:30,250 --> 01:44:27,410 just those of us that are lucky enough 2204 01:44:31,630 --> 01:44:30,260 to um you know to live in a society 2205 01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:31,640 where we don't have to worry about that 2206 01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:35,360 and that leads me to another oh yeah and 2207 01:44:42,570 --> 01:44:37,280 that brings me to another question which 2208 01:44:48,670 --> 01:44:42,580 I had sort of alluded to earlier these 2209 01:44:51,130 --> 01:44:48,680 Nephilim do you see any sense other than 2210 01:44:54,570 --> 01:44:51,140 our topic about and speaking about Jesus 2211 01:44:58,510 --> 01:44:54,580 as a possum possibly possibly benevolent 2212 01:45:00,670 --> 01:44:58,520 effort on the part of the Nephilim do 2213 01:45:02,020 --> 01:45:00,680 you see any other evidence that to show 2214 01:45:04,510 --> 01:45:02,030 that they actually care about our 2215 01:45:08,180 --> 01:45:04,520 well-being that the future of us as a 2216 01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:08,190 species I've seen 2217 01:45:15,380 --> 01:45:11,850 yeah and I see it in the nuclear and the 2218 01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:15,390 nuclear aspects because there's been a 2219 01:45:20,090 --> 01:45:17,280 few instances where they have kind of 2220 01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:20,100 messed with our nuclear capabilities and 2221 01:45:26,090 --> 01:45:23,010 have kind of shown that they they know 2222 01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:26,100 what's up and I don't think and I think 2223 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:28,710 they will Pro kind of prevent I forget 2224 01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:32,010 out of hand I'm pretty sure there's 2225 01:45:37,370 --> 01:45:35,250 gonna be there's a good force that will 2226 01:45:39,370 --> 01:45:37,380 prevent things from getting a hand 2227 01:45:41,060 --> 01:45:39,380 I believe that hundred percent because 2228 01:45:43,460 --> 01:45:41,070 so many things have already happened 2229 01:45:45,620 --> 01:45:43,470 where it's just like wait why are they 2230 01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:45,630 so interested in this and that's why you 2231 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:49,040 know when you see Roswell in 1947 and 2232 01:45:53,210 --> 01:45:51,090 everything kind of sort of started 2233 01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:53,220 happening after these nuclear tests 2234 01:45:58,100 --> 01:45:55,410 right I think that was kind of a wake-up 2235 01:46:03,110 --> 01:45:58,110 call you know and the fact that we could 2236 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:03,120 literally blow ourselves up and which is 2237 01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:04,890 sad because I mean why would you want a 2238 01:46:10,460 --> 01:46:06,690 nuclear war when it just ruins the real 2239 01:46:13,150 --> 01:46:10,470 estate I mean you know so it's pointless 2240 01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:13,160 right but I think there's been a 2241 01:46:17,570 --> 01:46:16,080 benevolent alien force that and I 2242 01:46:19,310 --> 01:46:17,580 believe there's a council - there's got 2243 01:46:22,340 --> 01:46:19,320 to be like an intergalactic council you 2244 01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:22,350 know that kind of monitors different 2245 01:46:27,620 --> 01:46:25,410 species they're kind of you know and I 2246 01:46:29,300 --> 01:46:27,630 believe if we are a prison planet you 2247 01:46:32,090 --> 01:46:29,310 know this is sort of a harbinger of 2248 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:32,100 souls and you know what's up with 2249 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:34,170 reincarnation all this sort of thing 2250 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:36,810 right all the mysteries that were 2251 01:46:44,060 --> 01:46:40,530 bombarded with on this planet why you 2252 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:44,070 know it's it's it's a gift for sure but 2253 01:46:51,530 --> 01:46:47,730 it's very easy to take it for granted 2254 01:46:56,180 --> 01:46:51,540 and you know you don't want to do that 2255 01:46:57,950 --> 01:46:56,190 no earlier you had mentioned Bigley know 2256 01:46:59,870 --> 01:46:57,960 do you mind do you mind just elaborating 2257 01:47:04,210 --> 01:46:59,880 I'm more about him and the influence 2258 01:47:07,130 --> 01:47:04,220 that he had on you yeah Morrow Bigley no 2259 01:47:09,620 --> 01:47:07,140 static and translator published over 2260 01:47:12,940 --> 01:47:09,630 like 20 books for them then he kind of 2261 01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:12,950 got like tired of promoting the lie 2262 01:47:18,250 --> 01:47:16,050 because he was basically had to make 2263 01:47:22,250 --> 01:47:18,260 sure everything was translated as 2264 01:47:23,690 --> 01:47:22,260 ethereal or spiritual or dreams business 2265 01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:23,700 so he went back and he kind of 2266 01:47:28,220 --> 01:47:24,930 translated what it was really saying 2267 01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:28,230 based off the original Hebrew you know 2268 01:47:32,210 --> 01:47:29,730 where all the source material comes from 2269 01:47:33,830 --> 01:47:32,220 and he kind of explained it how they're 2270 01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:33,840 talking about physical encounters you 2271 01:47:38,750 --> 01:47:35,010 know they're actually explaining these 2272 01:47:42,980 --> 01:47:38,760 things as concrete events that happened 2273 01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:42,990 right so I came across this book and one 2274 01:47:46,610 --> 01:47:44,480 of the you know one of the chat rooms 2275 01:47:49,460 --> 01:47:46,620 and I was blown away you know because 2276 01:47:51,230 --> 01:47:49,470 you don't get too many New Age alien 2277 01:47:54,350 --> 01:47:51,240 type of things right because everyone 2278 01:47:56,420 --> 01:47:54,360 knows Madonna kid culturing out 40 books 2279 01:47:57,710 --> 01:47:56,430 and they're all the same basically you 2280 01:47:59,300 --> 01:47:57,720 know we all we're all pretty much 2281 01:48:01,880 --> 01:47:59,310 familiar with citizens work there's 2282 01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:01,890 nothing new you know I did my a lien 2283 01:48:06,860 --> 01:48:03,930 Saints in egypt and about as knows you 2284 01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:06,870 can do and then you know of course I had 2285 01:48:12,170 --> 01:48:10,080 all the CIA you know kind of harassing 2286 01:48:15,110 --> 01:48:12,180 me make sure that make sure I don't get 2287 01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:15,120 on coast to coast or kind of even any 2288 01:48:22,190 --> 01:48:16,770 type of audience at all I'm surprised so 2289 01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:22,200 like $6,000 basically very cool but you 2290 01:48:28,970 --> 01:48:25,290 know you have you know nothing new in 2291 01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:28,980 the terms of New Age aliens we have ten 2292 01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:30,960 that ten seasons and you know what do 2293 01:48:36,710 --> 01:48:34,890 you got some ad money right so when I 2294 01:48:39,140 --> 01:48:36,720 read the Glee notes work I was I was 2295 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:39,150 impressed and I got ahold of him I was 2296 01:48:43,010 --> 01:48:41,250 able to get ahold of him and get his 2297 01:48:45,890 --> 01:48:43,020 permission you know cuz I kind of wanted 2298 01:48:48,290 --> 01:48:45,900 to use his works and kind of you know 2299 01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:48,300 rewrite and expand on what he was trying 2300 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:52,560 to say and he he wrote the foreword 2301 01:48:57,950 --> 01:48:55,890 right he gave me his blessings and a you 2302 01:49:05,860 --> 01:48:57,960 know incredible man very brave man you 2303 01:49:08,330 --> 01:49:05,870 know so I kind of took something new and 2304 01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:08,340 put my spin on it and kind of made sure 2305 01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:11,130 it reached a western audience a new 2306 01:49:17,300 --> 01:49:14,610 audience and I think that it's it's a 2307 01:49:19,070 --> 01:49:17,310 controversial topic and I think it's the 2308 01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:19,080 works good enough that it'll stand up 2309 01:49:24,770 --> 01:49:21,330 you know I hope this is scared to many 2310 01:49:28,580 --> 01:49:24,780 people away so I hope it's 2311 01:49:32,090 --> 01:49:28,590 people check it out yep well and and you 2312 01:49:35,330 --> 01:49:32,100 know he had access pretty much to what 2313 01:49:38,420 --> 01:49:35,340 the the vast reaches of the Vatican 2314 01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:38,430 Library or yeah he was the Vatican's top 2315 01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:40,080 scholar so he basically had access to 2316 01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,250 everything so if this guy was there 2317 01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:46,400 anything he wasn't allowed to translate 2318 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:49,920 no he did he translated everything and 2319 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:52,650 then when he decided that I'm tired of I 2320 01:49:58,880 --> 01:49:55,170 want to translate as it says then he got 2321 01:50:00,800 --> 01:49:58,890 fired of course you know well I guess 2322 01:50:03,950 --> 01:50:00,810 I'm wondering are there any texts that 2323 01:50:07,970 --> 01:50:03,960 um that he had access to that that we 2324 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:07,980 don't not that I know of he basically 2325 01:50:12,590 --> 01:50:10,530 went off the the the original Hebrew I 2326 01:50:15,980 --> 01:50:12,600 guess it would be the secretary and 2327 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:15,990 Bible and Greek Hebrew mm-hmm he went 2328 01:50:20,270 --> 01:50:17,610 off the source of what everything comes 2329 01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:20,280 from so that's all he needed to do as 2330 01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:22,320 far as what's hidden and what secret 2331 01:50:28,850 --> 01:50:26,610 books he didn't say oh I'm sure there's 2332 01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:28,860 a bunch you might have read or had 2333 01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:30,930 access to that he was no longer granted 2334 01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:33,840 permission you know yeah can you imagine 2335 01:50:40,910 --> 01:50:37,290 what the Vatican has I mean sure if I 2336 01:50:42,710 --> 01:50:40,920 can couldn't imagine yeah exactly at the 2337 01:50:44,780 --> 01:50:42,720 at the very end here I want to thank you 2338 01:50:46,220 --> 01:50:44,790 for coming on two paranormal now but 2339 01:50:50,420 --> 01:50:46,230 before we go do you want to leave any 2340 01:50:56,660 --> 01:50:50,430 last-minute thoughts with us yeah open 2341 01:50:58,220 --> 01:50:56,670 mind read the book on Amazon and I have 2342 01:51:01,790 --> 01:50:58,230 a bunch other books there you can check 2343 01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:01,800 out and you know it's important to kind 2344 01:51:08,450 --> 01:51:05,610 of have open mind and keep that 2345 01:51:11,330 --> 01:51:08,460 imagination keep the imagination open 2346 01:51:12,350 --> 01:51:11,340 and do good basically do the best amount 2347 01:51:15,110 --> 01:51:12,360 of good every day 2348 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:15,120 that sounds good do good I heard this 2349 01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:16,410 recently I can't remember the comedian 2350 01:51:22,220 --> 01:51:19,050 but his wife used to say life is chaos 2351 01:51:24,290 --> 01:51:22,230 be kind Navy and haze thank you so much 2352 01:51:27,020 --> 01:51:24,300 for coming on ancient aliens in the 2353 01:51:28,820 --> 01:51:27,030 Bible evidence of UFOs Nephilim and the 2354 01:51:31,070 --> 01:51:28,830 true face of angels in ancient 2355 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:31,080 scriptures this is Alan B Smith for 2356 01:51:35,660 --> 01:51:32,810 paranormal now you can always find us on 2357 01:51:36,260 --> 01:51:35,670 facebook at paranormal now radio or on 2358 01:51:38,780 --> 01:51:36,270 instagram 2359 01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:38,790 at paranormal now saving hazy and find 2360 01:51:42,980 --> 01:51:41,280 his books on Amazon and his Facebook 2361 01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:42,990 page is just your name right saving and 2362 01:51:46,820 --> 01:51:44,730 saving haze yep 2363 01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:46,830 alright that's it thank you for tuning 2364 01:51:52,820 --> 01:51:49,290 in I want to thank Joe champion Bob 2365 01:51:55,190 --> 01:51:52,830 tarmac and mga Lucas produces the iron 2366 01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:55,200 for making this show possible this is 2367 01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,360 Alan B Smith signing off and in the